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Title: [July 8 2010] New Site Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 08, 2010, 10:21:29 AM
I've started exploring the backend (that's what she said) and playing around with site ideas in my spare time.

I hope to eventuallly integrate the front page with the forum so you are not required to have 2 separate logins.  This will make things a lot less confusing and hopefully more welcoming to new members and guests.

Until I figure out how to do this I have routed our main URL (360fahrenheit.com (http://360fahrenheit.com)) directly to the forum, which is where we live anyway.

If you would like to visit the old front page CLICK HERE (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_joomla).

If you experience any site issues or have any suggestions, please post them here.   :)

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Post by: Jaynestown on July 08, 2010, 11:32:00 AM
I'd like to suggest a separate area just devoted to spreadsheets  ;D
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 08, 2010, 11:49:24 AM
Agreed.  lol

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Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 04:49:31 AM
Good work Neato. Now I can relax and remove people from my friends list I don't game with.  ;)
I wish you the best of luck and thank f*ck its not my responsibility anymore  ;D
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 05:53:16 AM
I suggest a clear hierarchy of moderators, i know it's against our genereal community nature to conform to a structure. Just look at our game nights. I think a clearer sense of who's responsible for what etc might help newer members. Perhaps people could be 'lumbered' with specific jobs craig; news and say Rex for 'initiation' :P :P

Some sort of advertising/recruiting program and a better way to handle game nights.

Bring back Sunday Horde!

If i think of anything else ...
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Post by: GamerMan316 on July 09, 2010, 06:11:20 AM
I suggest a clear hierarchy of moderators, i know it's against our genereal community nature to conform to a structure. Just look at our game nights. I think a clearer sense of who's responsible for what etc might help newer members. Perhaps people could be 'lumbered' with specific jobs craig; news and say Rex for 'initiation' :P :P

Some sort of advertising/recruiting program and a better way to handle game nights.

Bring back Sunday Horde!

If i think of anything else ...

Damn right  :)
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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 06:42:51 AM
I suggest a clear hierarchy of moderators, i know it's against our genereal community nature to conform to a structure. Just look at our game nights. I think a clearer sense of who's responsible for what etc might help newer members. Perhaps people could be 'lumbered' with specific jobs craig; news and say Rex for 'initiation' :P :P

Some sort of advertising/recruiting program and a better way to handle game nights.

Bring back Sunday Horde!

If i think of anything else ...

Damn right  :)

I'll go along with that too :)

And surely Failed should be in charge of initiations?
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Post by: GamerMan316 on July 09, 2010, 06:48:46 AM
I'm the news man and continual poster, I like that.  Now what new pointless thread can I create......  ;D
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Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 09, 2010, 08:03:37 AM
Good work Neato. Now I can relax and remove people from my friends list I don't game with.  ;)
I wish you the best of luck and thank f*ck its not my responsibility anymore  ;D

I hope that doesn't mean me  :'( haven't gamed with you in ages, well not properly last time you were on the other team on gears 2 all night
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Post by: GamerMan316 on July 09, 2010, 08:07:17 AM
Good work Neato. Now I can relax and remove people from my friends list I don't game with.  ;)
I wish you the best of luck and thank f*ck its not my responsibility anymore  ;D

I hope that doesn't mean me  :'( haven't gamed with you in ages, well not properly last time you were on the other team on gears 2 all night

She means me mate, don't worry about it, my constant hating on things that people love have turned people against me, it was only a matter of time before I got to Tara.   :)
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 09, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
I'm here as the token old guy!
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 08:23:49 AM
Don't worry Dfuzz your still on my friends list :P :P
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 08:56:34 AM
Great ideas.  Keep `em coming.

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Post by: Lukehi on July 09, 2010, 09:01:52 AM
how about someone 'in charge' revives the 360DF gamertag and sends FR to the new members?
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 09:13:22 AM
how about someone 'in charge' revives the 360DF gamertag and sends FR to the new members?

Great idea.  I completely forgot about that thing.   :D

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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 09:19:15 AM
how about I be 'in charge' of reviving the 360DF gamertag and send FR to the new members?

thanks for volunteering Lukey
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Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 09:23:45 AM
how about someone 'in charge' revives the 360DF gamertag and sends FR to the new members?

Great idea.  I completely forgot about that thing.   :D



You will have to ask Dave chaos for the password and stuff. It was him that created it
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Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 09:25:06 AM
Good work Neato. Now I can relax and remove people from my friends list I don't game with.  ;)
I wish you the best of luck and thank f*ck its not my responsibility anymore  ;D

I hope that doesn't mean me  :'( haven't gamed with you in ages, well not properly last time you were on the other team on gears 2 all night
Don't be silly. I love your lazy male chauvinistic ways
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 09:26:41 AM
he's not lazy, he's just well-to-do
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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 09:28:50 AM
Anything I can do?
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Post by: Lukehi on July 09, 2010, 09:41:46 AM
sit there and look pretty...you can be the eye candy


 :-*
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Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 09:44:15 AM
sit there and look pretty...you can be the eye candy


 :-*
yeah good idea Luke . How can anyone resist the charm of JT especially if he posts some cute pics of him and his Guinea pigs :D
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 09:53:33 AM
Anything I can do?

You are officially the 360DF eye candy.

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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 09:54:41 AM
On a serious note -

I'll begin working on these ideas this weekend, and I'll keep you all posted on this thread.

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Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 09, 2010, 10:19:21 AM
Good work Neato. Now I can relax and remove people from my friends list I don't game with.  ;)
I wish you the best of luck and thank f*ck its not my responsibility anymore  ;D

I hope that doesn't mean me  :'( haven't gamed with you in ages, well not properly last time you were on the other team on gears 2 all night
Don't be silly. I love your lazy male chauvinistic ways
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How can this be true when i am a house wife  ;D
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 10:40:50 AM
Just spotted that since you've removed the frontpage the most users online ever has gone from 11 or whatever it was to 30 and we currently have 7 users online (about usual) and 7 guests (not the norm).

A good thing ?
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 10:47:57 AM
Just spotted that since you've removed the frontpage the most users online ever has gone from 11 or whatever it was to 30 and we currently have 7 users online (about usual) and 7 guests (not the norm).

A good thing ?

I think so.  More traffic = more new members.

Before, a lot of visitors would visit 360fahrenheit.com and get lost on that front page and never make it to the forum.  If you don't see the forum, 360DF looks like a dead community.

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Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 10:56:31 AM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as specials ;)
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Post by: Astrex on July 09, 2010, 10:58:28 AM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as specials ;)

Is that because you didn't want to be the only one?  ;D
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Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 11:00:43 AM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as specials ;)

Is that because you didn't want to be the only one?  ;D
No it's because I wanted to look the best of a bad bunch ;)
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Post by: Lukehi on July 09, 2010, 11:02:12 AM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as Crazies ;)

Fixed

;)
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Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 11:03:26 AM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as Crazies ;)

Fixed

;)
It's so good to have our very own Bob The Builder
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 11:22:12 AM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as Crazies ;)

Fixed

;)
It's so good to have our very own Bob The Builder

Can he misquote it?

YES HE CAN!
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Post by: sambo on July 09, 2010, 11:24:07 AM
I would have no problem looking into the recruitment and advertising side of things, I'm constantly spamming the Xbox live Forums with 360 advertising. http://forums.xbox.com/31297411/ShowPost.aspx (http://forums.xbox.com/31297411/ShowPost.aspx)
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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 12:55:32 PM
Anything I can do?

You are officially the 360DF eye candy.



Hmm, not sure what to say to that!!!
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 12:57:19 PM
Anything I can do?

You are officially the 360DF eye candy.



Hmm, not sure what to say to that!!!

Just say 'I Do!!'
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 09, 2010, 01:59:09 PM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as Crazies ;)

Fixed

;)
It's so good to have our very own Bob The Builder

Thought that was me?
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 02:02:11 PM
Neato isn't as anti-social as me. I only let selected people join. More commonly known as Crazies ;)

Fixed

;)
It's so good to have our very own Bob The Builder

Thought that was me?

No.  You're our very own Bob Vila.

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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 02:04:25 PM
Anything I can do?

You are officially the 360DF eye candy.



Hmm, not sure what to say to that!!!

Just say 'I Do!!'

Will that make it a legally binding agreement?
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 02:05:35 PM
Anything I can do?

You are officially the 360DF eye candy.



Hmm, not sure what to say to that!!!

Just say 'I Do!!'

Will that make it a legally binding agreement?

not in this day and age, someone draw up a contract
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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 02:08:41 PM
OK, I don't mind being the "eye candy" as long as I don't have to lay semi-naked over the hood of 1969 Camaro, I may do my back in!!! ;)
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 02:10:32 PM
OK, I don't mind being the "eye candy" as long as I don't have to lay semi-naked over the hood of 1969 Camaro, I may do my back in!!! ;)

I soooo want to .gifMan that up right now, but I don't have the time right now.   :'(

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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 02:11:56 PM
OK, I don't mind being the "eye candy" as long as I don't have to lay semi-naked over the hood of 1969 Camaro, I may do my back in!!! ;)

I soooo want to .gifMan that up right now, but I don't have the time right now.   :'(



Phew!
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 02:13:59 PM
you will have to start wearing shorter clothing.
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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 02:19:45 PM
you will have to start wearing shorter clothing.

I've got a pair of footie shorts on at the moment, can't get much shorter!
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Post by: Lukehi on July 09, 2010, 02:23:34 PM
(http://www.allfunnypictures.com/images2/shortshorts.jpg)
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Post by: Jaynestown on July 09, 2010, 02:25:26 PM
Socks and trainers together, what a fashion faux par!
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 03:24:09 PM
I'm not reallly sure where to post this, so I'll just post it here.

While digging through the backend of our site, I discovered the answer to a little mystery that's been brought up a few times over the past few months.

The mystery:  "Why are guests printing old threads from our forum?"
The answer:  Google (and maybe other search engines) has indexed the PRINT version of some of our public threads.  So when someone uses Google to look for information on Kingdom Hearts, they may end up HERE (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1340.0).  They're not actually printing anything, they're just reading the PRINT version of a thread.

I thought that was interesting, since it's confused me for so long.  In time maybe I can figure out how to manipulate search indexing to our advantage.  I'm coming to realize how much I don't know about the internet.    ;D

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Post by: Lukehi on July 09, 2010, 03:35:49 PM
They're not actually printing anything, they're just reading the PRINT version of a thread.

It sll mskes sense now...Nightwatchman Neato strikes again
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Post by: Failed on July 09, 2010, 10:20:08 PM
I'm coming to realize how much I don't know about the internet.    ;D


'tis like a tardis, bigger than you expect on the inside.
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Post by: Failed on July 10, 2010, 07:39:28 AM
Can we open the members forums to the Guests. They'll have a chance to look at the Plan a Game night section aswell as some of the more intimate sections, although it will also subject em to Rex :P
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Post by: Astrex on July 10, 2010, 10:26:40 AM
Can we open the members forums to the Guests. They'll have a chance to look at the Plan a Game night section aswell as some of the more intimate sections, although it will also subject em to Rex :P

If anything after seeing my banter more people will join this place..... fun fun fun
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 10, 2010, 11:58:09 AM
(http://www.allfunnypictures.com/images2/shortshorts.jpg)

Is this Red? Looks like his avatar that's all.
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 12, 2010, 06:23:26 PM
Failed is putting together a master list of multiplayer games for Game Nights.  Be sure to post your collection THERE (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?topic=1438.0).

I've been exploring the possibility of integrating an official games database for all members.  Something that would make it easy to cross reference eachother's game collections so you can find someone to play a certain game with.  It may not be neccessary now, but as time passes and our population grows, it may become neccessary.

In the meantime, GO HERE (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?topic=1438.0) and give a list of multiplayer games you own to make organizing Game Nights a little easier.

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Post by: Failed on July 12, 2010, 07:00:59 PM
It'll cull the need to suggest us playing say Lost Planet when i can look and see only a few people own it. We can stick to games where we'll have a high turn out or 2 games with reasonable turn outs and everyone has a chance to play.
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 13, 2010, 12:24:36 PM
I've been making a lot of structural changes to the site.  Some changes you will notice, most you won't.

I've given access to the entire forum to all members.  Those of you with less than 1000 posts may now see some new areas of the forum you hadn't seen before.  Have fun!

Since the site is customized to each member, you may see some glitches or errors that others may not.  If you do see anything weird on the site (besides Failed) let me know.

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Post by: nCogNeato on July 13, 2010, 12:35:07 PM
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Post by: Failed on July 13, 2010, 12:46:41 PM

Since the site is customized to each member, you may see some glitches or errors that others may not.  If you do see anything weird on the site (besides Failed) let me know.



my show unread posts since last visit is brokened!
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 13, 2010, 02:36:38 PM

Since the site is customized to each member, you may see some glitches or errors that others may not.  If you do see anything weird on the site (besides Failed) let me know.



my show unread posts since last visit is brokened!

Is it still broken?

Anyone else having issues with the "Unread Posts" links at the top of the site?

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Post by: GamerMan316 on July 13, 2010, 02:40:14 PM

Since the site is customized to each member, you may see some glitches or errors that others may not.  If you do see anything weird on the site (besides Failed) let me know.



my show unread posts since last visit is brokened!

Is it still broken?

Anyone else having issued with the "Unread Posts" links at the top of the site?



It's working fine for me.
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 13, 2010, 02:55:39 PM
Sometime in the near future I may rollout some new designs for the site.  I'll post examples beforehand so everyone can vote.

But before I can do that, I'm going to do a lot of trimming in the forum.  I've merged the INTRODUCE YOURSELF and POST YOUR GAMERTAG sections to make the whole thing more streamlined.  I'll be doing similar things as time allows.

In case you're worried, I will not be deleting anything.  Out-of-place threads will be moved.  Similar threads will be merged.  Old irrelevant threads will be locked.  But nothing will be deleted.

So if you can't find a certain topic, please use the search button (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?action=search;advanced).  If you still can't find what you're looking for, feel free to PM me and I'll link you in the right direction.

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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 13, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
Uh oh,here he goes!
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 13, 2010, 04:11:52 PM
Uh oh,here he goes!

(http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ioqwhioheqwoi-445x295.png)

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Post by: Failed on July 14, 2010, 06:21:42 AM
you trim that fat neato
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 14, 2010, 11:18:43 AM
There seems to be some issues with the forum's "permission" settings.  I am currently working out the kinks.  So if anyone experiences any problems (like not being able to post), don't be alarmed.  It's only temporary.

If a problem lasts longer than a few hours, post here.  If you're unable to post, you can PM me or send an email to webmaster@360fahrenheit.com.

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Post by: nCogNeato on July 14, 2010, 03:58:40 PM
There seems to be some issues with the forum's "permission" settings.  I am currently working out the kinks.  So if anyone experiences any problems (like not being able to post), don't be alarmed.  It's only temporary.

If a problem lasts longer than a few hours, post here.  If you're unable to post, you can PM me or send an email to webmaster@360fahrenheit.com.

Nothing seems to be broken so far, so I'm going to leave it alone for now.  There are still some security concerns I need to remedy (casino sites anyone?).  I have some ideas, but in fear of breaking something I'll wait until later tonight to test my theories.

That is one great advantage to our time differences.  I'm still awake while most of the site's traffic is in bed.   ;)

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Post by: Failed on July 14, 2010, 04:12:58 PM
 i might come online at 4am and bug you
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 15, 2010, 01:37:45 AM
Recent changes you may notice:


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Post by: Lukehi on July 15, 2010, 03:32:57 AM
sounds good Neato...you may want a quiet word with Sarge, people of his generation don't really like change... ;)


Recent changes you may notice:

  • You can now report posts.  Some of you have already began using this feature - thank you.   :)


watch out spammers, I've got my eye on you...
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Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 15, 2010, 08:45:06 AM
sounds good Neato...you may want a quiet word with Sarge, people of his generation don't really like change... ;)


 :D LMAO
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 15, 2010, 09:42:36 AM
sounds good Neato...you may want a quiet word with Sarge, people of his generation don't really like change... ;)


Recent changes you may notice:

  • You can now report posts.  Some of you have already began using this feature - thank you.   :)


watch out spammers, I've got my eye on you...

Speaking of which, I'd like everyone to know that I'm aware of the spam accounts that are in our Members List.

Over the past week I've been testing new ways to tighten our security, while still opening our site to new members.  It's a tricky thing, but I think I've finally found a good balance.

Spam "bots" will likely no longer be a problem, but human spammers are still a possible annoyance.  The only real answer to human spammers is manipulating IP / Domain filters, and of course time.  So keep reporting those spam posts if you see any.   8)

I will be sending a 'newsletter' of sorts to members that haven't posted, or haven't posted in a long time.  But before I do that, there are more immediate site maintenance tasks that I need to focus on.

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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 15, 2010, 03:27:06 PM
sounds good Neato...you may want a quiet word with Sarge, people of his generation don't really like change... ;)


 :D LMAO

Too right!
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Post by: Jurassic Parky on July 15, 2010, 05:55:12 PM
Where's the <3 Jurassic Parky forum damnit?
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 15, 2010, 06:00:55 PM
Where's the <3 Jurassic Parky forum damnit?

Next on my list, hombre.   ;)


EDIT:  Every forum is the <3 Jurassic Parky forum.  duh   :-*


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Post by: Jurassic Parky on July 15, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
You know it!
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 15, 2010, 06:12:10 PM
I'm playing around with new features (news fader, alternate headers, etc.).  If you see something you do or don't like, let me know.  I am spending a lot of time here at night while I'm half asleep.  Without your input I might take us in a bizarre direction.  lol



ps.  These are not the site designs that I MENTIONED EARLIER (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?topic=1427.msg37205#msg37205).  Those will come later, and I'll will let everyone vote on their favorites before making any permenant changes.

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Post by: bobbus74 on July 25, 2010, 04:39:51 PM
Anyone else find it frustrating that the main site is sort of seperate from the forums? Without reinstalling the site from scratch and starting with an intergrated forum, there's not really an easy work around unfortunately. I did have one idea though an that was to use a wrapper. The wrapper basically allows one webpage to be shown inside another the same way that iframe does. With this in mind I just knocked up a quick wrapper for the forum. You guys can test it out by going to the home page http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_joomla/ and clicking the 'forum wrapper' link :

(http://i31.tinypic.com/6zy7av.jpg)

Unfortunately it won't display with the same dimensions as normal as the Joomla template of the main site is fixed width. If we were to change the template to a fluid width one we may be able to increase the width of the forum within it.
Anyway, let me know what you think?
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Post by: Failed on July 25, 2010, 06:19:43 PM
tis too small for my taste, you'd have to jam the contents bar across the far left or right at the top and then make the right hand section disappear, so it's all just forum and little bit of front page either on the left or the top.

I like the front page, i like the chat box and the reviews and news getting front page as it were. So perhaps have contents and the chat box on the top of the page with everything else below it the forum.
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 26, 2010, 02:11:14 AM
Poor Tara,all that work she done and everyone has ripped it to shreds!
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Post by: Failed on July 26, 2010, 03:06:42 AM
far as we know, neato is working on combining the front page with the forums so we don't have to log in twice and we can have news, reviews, etc
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Post by: bobbus74 on July 26, 2010, 03:43:07 AM
That'd be good, involves a lot of work though. I suspect he will have to merge the 2 mysql databases into 1.  Possible but problematic.
With regards to the forum looking too small within the main site, that could be fixed by changing the theme to fluid width theme. Fluid width themes change to whatever resolution each person is viewing on.
Anyway, no biggie, just trying to help.
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Post by: Failed on July 26, 2010, 05:39:42 AM
no that's great, it has to be done. Someones gotta make both the front page and the forums work together. Most people head straight to the forums, that sort of makes the frontpage redundant.... if it's there in the corner more people will just gravitate towards it after they have spammed their hearts out.
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Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 26, 2010, 09:43:31 AM
good idea bobbus. I like it, but i also agree that it's a bit small. I'm sure between you all you can come up with a good solution.
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Post by: TaraJayne on July 26, 2010, 10:20:54 AM
Poor Tara,all that work she done and everyone has ripped it to shreds!
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion I guess. It was my first attempt at a proper website so I am not that bothered. I have had no teaching and I did quite well.
I appreciate your comment though Sarge. Thank you :)
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 26, 2010, 11:27:16 AM
As far as I'm aware,Tara is,was and will allways be our leader,so show some respect.She started this community and it seems like some people are circling like vultures waiting to rip the carcass to bits.Some of this sh*t going on is really pissing me off.I know some of you want to make the site better,but why?
That's my rant out of the way. >:(
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Post by: Failed on July 26, 2010, 01:15:40 PM
I know some of you want to make the site better,but why?


To make the community grow and have more people to game with, chat to and make stupid comments? why else, world peace, total interweb domination? More fun, less glum.
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 26, 2010, 01:21:46 PM
I know some of you want to make the site better,but why?


To make the community grow and have more people to game with, chat to and make stupid comments? why else, world peace, total interweb domination? More fun, less glum.

Your not getting the point.
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Post by: Failed on July 26, 2010, 01:31:34 PM
As far as i'm aware, this is a community and not a clan, there are no leaders as far as i'm concerned, theres people that do more work than others, people who dedicate their time to bring you the latest news, get people to turn up to game nights, get new people to turn up and generally make sure sh*t doesn't explode.

TJ used to make everything work, recruit, do game nights, sort people out and make sh*t NOT EXPLODE. No wonder she left doing all that sh*t, i sometimes lack the enthuiasm to write a game night post because i know even if 20 people say they'll turn up i can struggle to get 8 playing, i'd hate to have to recruit, make the site work and mollycoddle people who weren't happy with whatver new stuff that was happening.

TJ made it all happen, not always alone, she's got a great comunity that has helped her, but she's stepped down now and just wants to be a regular member without the responsibility. The people who are 'circling like vultures' are trying to make sure her great work and legacy stays put, so we can all enjoy the benefits of our great community.

I have the upmost respect, love and loyalty to TJ for what she has done (as alot of you have), but it could have all easily died when she stepped down and everyone has done a great job of trying to keep TJ's community alive and well. Stop being so shortsighted about people trying to help make sure this place stays with us for many more years.
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 26, 2010, 03:36:11 PM
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Post by: Failed on July 26, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
i can think of no one better to make sure the place doesn't explode ...... except TJ ofcourse :P
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Post by: nCogNeato on July 26, 2010, 03:58:46 PM
... back on topic :D ...


Bobbus, the 'wrapper' is a good idea.  It sort of accomplishes what I want to do, but still requires users to have 2 separate logins.

I've researched a 'bridge' between SMF and Joomla, but unfortunately there has not been an officially supported bridge for a while.

The 2 options I gave myself was
     1.  Dump SMF and rebuild a forum compatible with Joomla.
     2.  Dump Joomla and rebuild a front page compatible with SMF.

Since the forum makes up 90% of our community's home, I've been leaning towards SMF's favor.  There are even a number of mods and feature packages that expand the capabilities of SMF to function as more than just a forum.  I've played around with some, but haven't had enough time to consider any permenant possibilities.

TJ did a fantastic job using Joomla and SMF to build us a new home when we desperately needed one.  I do not think it was TJ's intention to not improve it, but as the community (and TJ's family) grew and time passed, it became increasingly more difficult to make many changes.

Keep the great feedback coming, Bobbus.  I always welcome new ideas.
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Post by: bobbus74 on July 26, 2010, 06:31:26 PM
Firstly, I'm sorry if I am deamed one of the 'vultures', that's really not my intention. I was just trying out an idea and gathering feedback. You guys have created a decent community here and I was just offering my ideas to help sustain and possibly improve it. TJ has as many of you say started something good here and I wasn't trying to detract from that, merely offer a possible solution to a problem.

Secondly, Neato - I think you're right to go down the SMF path as that will definitely be simpler and less problematic going forward. Like you say, there are plenty of mods and portals etc that could expand the possibilities of the site. If you want I could set up a test SMF forum to play around with. We could let everyone test stuff on there and gather feedback. If members like a certain add-on or mod then we could incorperate it into the main site. 
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Post by: Handshakes on July 30, 2010, 11:45:22 AM
Great ideas Bobbus.

I'm glad we have peeps like you and Neato hanging around, keeping the site from exploding.
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Post by: Lukehi on August 02, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
Quick suggestion - now we have a few new members kicking about is it worth locking 'Games Night' threads after a set amount of time?

We've seen lately that old threads for games nights have been re-kindled when it would make more sense to start a new more current thread.


Just an idea and thought I throw it out for discussion.
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Post by: Failed on August 02, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
hmmm, i did post something on one thread from last September, but i like to let new people mooch over what they want, they'll soon return to the graveyard of 'page 2'

i'll go have a lookeh at the coop and game night forums now to check.
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Post by: Lukehi on August 02, 2010, 01:34:15 PM
but i like to let new people mooch over what they want,

I know what you mean, that its good for new members to read through the old stuff but is it a good thing that they post about an old and dead co-op gaming night?

not sure what the answer is (yet) but the threads need to encourage participation whilst not getting hopes up of a co-op session on 'XYZ' if its a dead thread.
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Post by: Failed on August 02, 2010, 01:37:15 PM
yes if they need coop, then they should start a new thread. I locked MW2 spec ops, neato sorted the other thread about Halo Legend, Wars and UT3.

I think UT3 and Halo Wars will head down pretty quick, Legendary might happen though.
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Post by: Lukehi on August 02, 2010, 01:39:57 PM
I locked MW2 spec ops, neato sorted the other thread


Is there an answer that doesn't involve more work for the Admin guys? 

Otherwise you'll have to read every co-op thread, spam comment and then lock appropriatley... ;)
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Post by: Failed on August 02, 2010, 01:44:01 PM
nah we won't, if an old thread resurfaces, i can let whoever know to start a new thread and then lock the old one. It's not like 20 a day are coming back, just 2 this week. Nice and easy, Game Night Mod is a bum, he has a whole 2 forums to look after.  ;)
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 02, 2010, 02:41:13 PM
Failed,

If you'd like, you can post a "READ FIRST" sticky topic at the top of the board explaining to create a new topic if the last one is more than XX months old.  That may save you some work down the road.
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Post by: Failed on August 02, 2010, 02:43:59 PM
I'll see how the world turns, no need to make a molehill from a mountain etc
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 05, 2010, 09:13:14 AM
I've increased the "Modify" post time limit to 1 hour.

Hopefully this will improve everyone's ability to learn & correct post problems (hyperlinks, insert images, etc.) without a great risk of ruining the flow of existing conversations.
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 05, 2010, 03:47:36 PM
I'm going to do a lot of trimming in the forum.  I've merged the INTRODUCE YOURSELF and POST YOUR GAMERTAG sections to make the whole thing more streamlined.  I'll be doing similar things as time allows.

In case you're worried, I will not be deleting anything.  Out-of-place threads will be moved.  Similar threads will be merged.  Old irrelevant threads will be locked.  But nothing will be deleted.

So if you can't find a certain topic, please use the search button (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?action=search).  If you still can't find what you're looking for, feel free to PM me and I'll link you in the right direction.

UPDATE:
I've merged the "News & Updates" board with "The Feedback Loop".  It is now called "Feedback & Updates (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?board=7.0)".

I've also moved several out-of-place topics to the boards they belong to.  If you have trouble finding a discussion, use the search button (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?action=search).  If you still can't find it, let me know.
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 15, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
Our new chatroom is now live.   :)  Use your forum username/password to log into the chat.

As with any new changes, there's bound to be some side effects.  If anyone experiences any problems or glitches, please let me know. 
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 15, 2010, 12:35:12 PM
Our new chatroom is now live.   :)  Use your forum username/password to log into the chat.

As with any new changes, there's bound to be some side effects.  If anyone experiences any problems or glitches, please let me know. 


Username and password won't work for me
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 15, 2010, 12:58:36 PM
Our new chatroom is now live.   :)  Use your forum username/password to log into the chat.

As with any new changes, there's bound to be some side effects.  If anyone experiences any problems or glitches, please let me know.  


Username and password won't work for me

How about now?


EDIT:  Nevermind, I just chatted with you.   ;)
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Post by: citatscEellE on August 15, 2010, 03:30:41 PM
chatroom wha?
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 16, 2010, 12:43:58 AM
I ran into an issue with the chat.  It's temporarily disabled until I can work out the kinks.
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 16, 2010, 03:47:47 PM
Where's the chat link gone?
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Post by: sambo on August 16, 2010, 03:52:50 PM
Top of the page, next to the members list.
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Post by: GamerMan316 on August 16, 2010, 03:56:43 PM
Top of the page, next to the members list.

Not on my screen it ain't, that's where it was yesterday, just a gap there now.
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 16, 2010, 04:03:18 PM
Top of the page, next to the members list.

Not on my screen it ain't, that's where it was yesterday, just a gap there now.

Same here, no gap for me, it's just gone!
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Post by: Lukehi on August 16, 2010, 04:04:30 PM
its there for me?
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 16, 2010, 04:08:27 PM
I logged out and I could see the link, when I logged back in it had gone again!
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Post by: Failed on August 16, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
a few of us in there now
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 16, 2010, 04:11:57 PM
There's a little number 2 showing up next to my avatar at the top but it doesnt say "in chat" next to it like it did yesterday and the link is definitely not there!
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Post by: Lukehi on August 16, 2010, 04:12:14 PM
all the cool kids... :P
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Post by: GamerMan316 on August 16, 2010, 04:17:47 PM
There's a little number 2 showing up next to my avatar at the top but it doesnt say "in chat" next to it like it did yesterday and the link is definitely not there!

Same for me
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 16, 2010, 04:19:13 PM
There's a little number 2 showing up next to my avatar at the top but it doesnt say "in chat" next to it like it did yesterday and the link is definitely not there!

Same for me

They don't want to let us in Craig :(
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Post by: GamerMan316 on August 16, 2010, 04:26:57 PM
There's a little number 2 showing up next to my avatar at the top but it doesnt say "in chat" next to it like it did yesterday and the link is definitely not there!

Same for me

They don't want to let us in Craig :(

Sod it, i'm killing terrorists and watching the football, so i'm good.   :)
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 16, 2010, 04:35:13 PM
I ran into an issue with the chat.  It's temporarily disabled until I can work out the kinks.
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Post by: Lukehi on August 16, 2010, 04:38:29 PM
I ran into an issue with the chat.  It's temporarily disabled until I can work out the kinks.


all good for me and Failed, where having a whale of a time... :-*
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Post by: Failed on August 16, 2010, 04:42:54 PM
we're whaling
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Post by: Lukehi on August 16, 2010, 05:03:44 PM
we're whaling

I'm running about and Failed has a harpoon and has a 'f*ck you Greenpeace' t-shirt on!
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Post by: GamerMan316 on August 16, 2010, 05:04:14 PM
Tried Firefox & IE, still no chat option for me.
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 16, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
Oh well, I didn't want to chat to any of you anyway  :'(
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Post by: GamerMan316 on August 16, 2010, 05:18:39 PM
I'm not all that bothered to be honest, just letting people know that there are problems.
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 16, 2010, 11:59:56 PM
I think I got the chat sorted.

Even though the chatroom was working, there was some remnant 'glitched' code that I feared would eventually cause a problem.  Everything is clean and it looks like it's running smooth.

With the fix, you'll notice the # of users in the chatroom is now displayed next to the CHAT button in the top toolbar.  Example - CHAT (6).

The chatroom is always on, so what you say in it stays there for up to 3 days or 50 messages, whichever comes first.  Think of it as a sort of ShoutBox on steroids.   

As always, if you run into any errors/glitches/WTF's, post here and let me know.  Don't clutter up other threads with technical site discussions.
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 17, 2010, 02:11:25 AM
Neato

The link is there now and I can see the number against it, but it still doesn't say Chat... just the number.
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Post by: GamerMan316 on August 17, 2010, 05:39:43 AM
Still no link for me people.   :(
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Post by: Jaynestown on August 17, 2010, 07:48:16 AM
It's not my computer, I can't see it when logged in from my work PC either.
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Post by: Lukehi on August 17, 2010, 08:17:50 AM
just tried it in work and its fine with me... 8)
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 17, 2010, 09:27:28 AM
... ok ...   :-\

I think I figured it out.  I believe the cookie manipulation I did to the site in order to help people with the 'unread messages' (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?topic=1446.0) issue a few weeks ago seemed to prevent people from actually loading the site's new features.

The solution:
I've temporarily disabled global cookie storage.  This means that when you visit the site, instead of pulling up a cached version of the site, your web browser will download the new version of the site.

If you don't see the CHAT button, log out of the forum, then delete all of your temporary internet files (cache) from your web browser.

This also means that the 'unread messages' issue may start up again.  To be safe, I'll keep global cookies disabled until everyone confirms they can use the CHAT button.  Then I'll reactivate them to prevent the 'unread messages' issue from continuing.



EDIT:  Playing around with the server, it looks like the fix may not be instant for some.  If you've followed the directions above, but still don't see the CHAT button, give it 48 hours to sort itself out.  In the meantime, you can go directly into the chatroom here:  http://www.360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/chat/.
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Post by: nCogNeato on August 17, 2010, 04:30:19 PM
One of the changes I made ended up resetting everyone's personal options.

Check your profile PROFILE (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/index.php?action=profile) and make sure your "Look and Layout Preferences" are set the way you like.
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Post by: bobbus74 on August 29, 2010, 04:41:20 PM
If any of you guys are still not seeing the Chat link, try refreshing your browsers (hold Ctrl and press F5). That might sort it.
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Post by: dfusioness on September 09, 2010, 09:36:23 AM
was beginning to wish i had never suggested the chatroom, how much crap did that cause, sorry everyone, ah well at least its ok now
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Post by: Failed on September 12, 2010, 05:32:55 PM
chatroom is awesome though.
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Post by: dfusioness on September 16, 2010, 02:54:14 AM
thnx honey,  :D
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Post by: dfusioness on November 03, 2010, 03:00:26 PM
OK, I don't mind being the "eye candy" as long as I don't have to lay semi-naked over the hood of 1969 Camaro, I may do my back in!!! ;)

can i have mine changed to community wife please x
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Post by: zerosum on March 01, 2011, 12:28:55 AM
Just wondering - and this may have been answered somewhere, if it has, advanced apologies; but I wasn't able to find it via a search -

Is there any sort of
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Post by: nCogNeato on March 01, 2011, 01:35:49 PM
Just wondering - and this may have been answered somewhere, if it has, advanced apologies; but I wasn't able to find it via a search -

Is there any sort of
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Not right now.  This summer I'll be upgrading our site to a newer version of SMF, along with some added features like
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Post by: Failed on March 01, 2011, 02:44:54 PM
Perhaps a 'Shout Out Box'
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Post by: nCogNeato on March 01, 2011, 02:56:37 PM
Perhaps a 'Shout Out Box'

Last year when I released my first round of updates, I did add a shoutbox for roughly 1 hour.  It ended up crashing the forum and I had to resurrect a backup.  Fortunately, it was a slow day and I don't think anyone lost any posts.   8)

My fingers are crossed that the new SMF is more stable and add-on friendly.  We'll find out in a few months.   :-X
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Post by: zerosum on March 01, 2011, 03:32:21 PM
Just wondering - and this may have been answered somewhere, if it has, advanced apologies; but I wasn't able to find it via a search -

Is there any sort of
(click to show/hide)
Not right now.  This summer I'll be upgrading our site to a newer version of SMF, along with some added features like
(click to show/hide)
Cool deal, sent you a PM that may or may not help in the venture. ;)
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Post by: Failed on March 01, 2011, 03:48:52 PM
Perhaps a 'Shout Out Box'

Last year when I released my first round of updates, I did add a shoutbox for roughly 1 hour.  It ended up crashing the forum and I had to resurrect a backup.  Fortunately, it was a slow day and I don't think anyone lost any posts.   8)

My fingers are crossed that the new SMF is more stable and add-on friendly.  We'll find out in a few months.   :-X


Months? can't you just go into admin and update it. Or is it a case of you need a free weekend incase you blow us up ?
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Post by: nCogNeato on March 01, 2011, 04:58:26 PM
Perhaps a 'Shout Out Box'

Last year when I released my first round of updates, I did add a shoutbox for roughly 1 hour.  It ended up crashing the forum and I had to resurrect a backup.  Fortunately, it was a slow day and I don't think anyone lost any posts.   8)

My fingers are crossed that the new SMF is more stable and add-on friendly.  We'll find out in a few months.   :-X


Months? can't you just go into admin and update it. Or is it a case of you need a free weekend incase you blow us up ?

Free weekend.  It may be as simple as updating the files, but in my experience it's never been that easy due to all of the 'mods' we have installed.

I plan to shutdown the site, make a full backup, and then test a couple different approaches.  Hope it's simple and upload the new SMF update.  When that fails, I'll remove all of our mods, and attempt to update again.  Worst case ... if that doesn't work, I'll remove all mods, export the database, remove the old forum completely, upload an entirely new forum, import the database, and start fresh with an entirely new site with all posts hopefully preserved.  Then I'll test some mods (like shoutbox & spoilers).

If I don't have a 100% free weekend to devote to it, the site will either remain shutdown until the following weekend, or I'll just have to revert the backup which would mean everything I did was a waste of time.
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Post by: Failed on March 01, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
A whole week without the forum?? AMG!!

Give us all due warning so we can go on holiday to a tibetan mountain with no internet, we won't miss anything and can contemplate world peace and dream of Gears of War 4 ;)
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Post by: nCogNeato on March 02, 2011, 11:09:15 AM
Deal.   ;)
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Post by: dfusioness on March 04, 2011, 08:45:50 AM
you are kidding, ive just spent the last two weeks without internet, bugger !!!!
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Post by: nCogNeato on March 04, 2011, 10:09:55 AM
you are kidding, ive just spent the last two weeks without internet, bugger !!!!

I'm not going to let the site be shutdown for a week.  I'll shut it down for 48 hours (at most) sometime later this Summer.  Not anytime soon.
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Post by: dfusioness on March 05, 2011, 07:28:09 AM
phew , dont scare me like that