The
unofficial sequel to the fantastic PS3 exclusive Demon's Souls, Dark Souls is a dark fantasy RPG that combines tense dungeon crawling, fearsome enemy encounters and groundbreaking online features for a truly unique RPG experience.
Dark Souls breaks down barriers with a seamless world design that encourages exploration and fosters an adaptable gameplay experience. As players encounter terrifying enemies and discover new areas, the unerring foundation of challenge and reward permeates to offer an unparalleled sense of achievement.
Two words on this<<well thats 4!
Awesome and Awesomeness!!
Cannot wait for this, one evil game indeed.
Type of game that might just sink into obscurity like Knights Contract.
Yeah I don't think the sales will be amazing, which is a shame. But then sales don't equal quality. I still think it will do ok and make profit, but it's not gonna break any records for sure.
it needs to make profit though and i hope it does.
It's going to be fantastic, but I'm sure the difficulty will deter some reviewers. 'Casual' gamers need not apply.
Ninja Gaiden seems to do well though
Release Date is October 4th
I'll be buying this.
Quote from: nCogNeato on August 25, 2011, 02:07:40 PM
I'll be buying this.
the question is, will you play it?
What kind of game is this? Is it a God of War clone, or what?
Quote from: Handshakes on August 26, 2011, 11:18:05 AM
What kind of game is this? Is it a God of War clone, or what?
It's definitely nothing like God of War. It's a brutal 3rd-person action/RPG. It's hard to compare to games of current generation, except for Demon's Souls of course. If you told the team that made Witcher to make a hardcore Fable game, it would probably be similar.
Here's a gameplay vid.
Action rpg with the emphasis on action/stealth/armor/weapons/magic choices, combat choices with less of a leaning toward dialogue. More of a leaning towards accomplishment and conquering certain tasks. The more you die the harder it gets until eventually you either quit with rage or succeed with..'words here''!!lol
Not for the feint hearted, jaw dropping bosses, player to player world invasion or assistance.
Yeah so epic and difficult, and yeah a lot of people will shy away due to the spike in difficulty, but From Software make no apology for that, its meant to be that way. Anyone that gets 1k points on this shall be declared a gaming god and can retire!!:)
Achievements (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/dark-souls/achievements/)
Looks like a lot of secret ones, those Japanese know to make it tricky :P
Excitement!
ROAAARRRRR!!
or something to that effect!
Dark Souls Guide: How Not To Die A Million Times (http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/717018/dark-souls-guide-how-not-to-die-a-million-times/)
It's 5:30am in Boston. Just put down Dark Souls. This has not happened in a while.
Quote from: Grok1122 on October 08, 2011, 09:27:08 AM
It's 5:30am in Boston. Just put down Dark Souls. This has not happened in a while.
Just how good is it? Seriously thinking about getting this today but am slightly put off by the reports that its tough since I have
below average gaming skillz
I've merged Grok's thread with the main Dark Souls thread. :)
On the back of the Limited Edition in massive letters it just says 'Prepare to Die'
Update: I picked it back up at apx. 7:00am and just put it down to you know, not starve.
Game scratches a serious itch in my lower brainstem. It's been years since a game got my dopamine floodgates to open up like this and keep me up all night.
To answer your question, it's very, very good. It's not incredibly difficult, just incredibly unforgiving. You make a mistake, you die. However I only rarely feel 'cheated' by the game. You definitely have to be ok with losing an hour or two of your time here and there from mistakes you made. There are occasions where you'll spend time working through a level only to make a couple of mistakes and then the reset button is hit on your last hour of gaming. It can be a bit of a pill to swallow.
That being said, it's not difficult like beating a Call of Duty on veteran is tough. The tempo of combat is relatively slow paced, forcing you to be extremely methodical about your actions. The game also does not 'instruct' you on very much at all, so it's not uncommon to wander into an area completely above your level or hit the occasional boss that requires multiple repeats.
All of the bosses and enemies have very observable patterns, and you just have to learn to work against those patterns. So they're discreet challenges. It's less about having good gaming reactions and more about having focus and patience. I love it.
Anyways sorry about the lack of brevity, and thanks GamerMan for merging the thread.
I've been reading about this and watching videos most of the day and still can't decide.
The fact that you say it's that absorbing has me excited and worried in equal measure. Not sure if I can afford to spend that much time on another beast of a game.
Slow and methodical isn't really my thing, it's gotta be twitch
I am keen to get this as I like a good challenge. Completing Ng black on the original Xbox was another harsh but fair test. I just have a feeling that in a couple of weeks there will be hundreds of copies of this available second hand as people won't like the challenge and it will be easy go pick up a cheap copy
Quote from: B3ater on October 09, 2011, 09:10:01 AM
I am keen to get this as I like a good challenge. Completing Ng black on the original Xbox was another harsh but fair test. I just have a feeling that in a couple of weeks there will be hundreds of copies of this available second hand as people won't like the challenge and it will be easy go pick up a cheap copy
Yup thats what i was thinking, the game is awesome, currently have it from lovefilm but can see me putting alot of time into it so gonna wait for the inevitable second-hand copies.
Also i love the messages you can leave ingame for others to read, the "Good Luck" message puts you on edge expecting something happen.
Quote from: B3ater on October 09, 2011, 09:10:01 AM
I am keen to get this as I like a good challenge. Completing Ng black on the original Xbox was another harsh but fair test. I just have a feeling that in a couple of weeks there will be hundreds of copies of this available second hand as people won't like the challenge and it will be easy go pick up a cheap copy
Good point, the limited edition is still available for 39.99 as well. So not a major seller, this game looks, sounds and feels evil.
Quote from: B3ater on October 09, 2011, 09:10:01 AM
I am keen to get this as I like a good challenge. Completing Ng black on the original Xbox was another harsh but fair test. I just have a feeling that in a couple of weeks there will be hundreds of copies of this available second hand as people won't like the challenge and it will be easy go pick up a cheap copy
lol my thoughts exactly. I predict a lot of people (kids) will give up and trade it in for Call of Duty or something.
Quick Look: Dark Souls (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-dark-souls/17-4966/)
Game looks awesome, will have to add it to my list of games to buy.
Interesting thing is though it seems to be getting pushed by strategize on the dash and it's getting some attention , a good sign.
And then there's this. Gotta love the writer's enthusiasm in this piece :)
http://technologizer.com/2011/10/10/dark-souls-is-a-word-of-mouth-triumph/
http://www.giantbomb.com/dark-souls/61-32697/dark-souls-is-harder-than-demons-souls-like-a-lot/35-518123/
We need to start a Dark Souls support sub-group. :o
Fell victim to my hype once again and bought the Limited Edition, should be in the mail on Tuesday. All that's left now is prepare myself for a lot of dying :o
No hype here, all fact.
Dark Souls Speed Run (http://gamingbolt.com/dark-souls-beaten-in-1-hour-26-minutes-exemplary-display-of-skill-shown)
awesome work!
Quote from: GamerMan316 on October 17, 2011, 09:50:19 AM
Dark Souls Speed Run (http://gamingbolt.com/dark-souls-beaten-in-1-hour-26-minutes-exemplary-display-of-skill-shown)
Pfft they make it look so easy, was stuck on the gargoyles for like 2 hours!!!
I finally decided to purchase this after being on the fence about it for a while. Havent bought an adventure title in a while so I figured what the hell. I was pretty sharp back in the days of Ninja Gaiden (Xbox) but this gameplay seems somewhat slower paced (but still difficult) and also has the RPG elements in there, which I enjoy. So now, it's in the mail.
Sooo... does anybody have comments on starting classes or whatever? How much freedom do you have to play your own style or does min-maxing become too necessary?
Starting class doesn't have a huge effect as you can pretty well go in any direction from any starting class pretty easily. That being said, I would recommend pyromancer or wanderer to start. The former starts with fireballs, which are useful for the entire game, and the latter is well-rounded. I am in the mid-game, have upgraded my pyromancy to level 10+ and it is extremely useful.
Also consider bumping your dexterity or intelligence in the early game to use bows or sorcery, as having a ranged option is very useful. Definitely do-able without, but it helps early on.
Lastly, your level in the game isn't really of too much consequence. I've heard of a lot of people who stop leveling up in the 40's, and can go through the game just fine. I'm 50+ right now and I will say it makes invading/being invaded extremely difficult, as the people at that level are crazy good.
Hope this helps.
I've heard the starting equipment and stuff can be especially relevant to the early part of the game. I was thinking of trying the thief because I like a combat rogue style of play and I also heard they start with a master key, but the lack of heavy armor, weaponry, and HP seems pretty terrifying from everything I have heard. A thief would start with high Dex right? I would have to focus more on increases other stats then?
Also, how much trouble is being invaded by other players? Does it frustrate the game experience?
You can get the master key as any class. Heavy armor and health are overrated, they're only going to marginally help you.
Getting invaded doesn't happen often, it's pretty rare. It can be thrilling and frustrating when it does happen.
lol makes it look easy, but how many times had they played through already!!! still nice though.
Quote from: Grok1122 on October 17, 2011, 02:33:31 PM
You can get the master key as any class. Heavy armor and health are overrated, they're only going to marginally help you.
Getting invaded doesn't happen often, it's pretty rare. It can be thrilling and frustrating when it does happen.
So a combat rogue isnt a bad idea then? What strength do you have to get to before you can start using swords in one hand?
Combat rogue should be fine, but I cannot stress enough the importance of having something like Soul Arrows to help you in the beginning. One-handed swords should be available from the start.
Well just completed my first playthrough, really want to start new+ but after clocking in 40 hours on my first gonna give it a miss, got rage/fifa 12/gow3/forza 4 sitting there getting neglected.
Got 22/41 500+ achievements defeated all bosses etc mostly crafting and cov and alt end left to do im happy best game this year easily.
cool, i have it in the shop atm.... but i REALLY wanna finish off Oblivion *sob*
Probably played about 10 hours so far and I'm really enjoying it. Gonna grind some more souls, gain a few levels and then gonna ring the first bell :D
My game shipped yesterday. You guys have me so excited to play!
Quick question, when you finish and start a new + game do you keep your gear and mobs all scale up?
Quote from: Windedprism on October 19, 2011, 01:19:29 PM
Quick question, when you finish and start a new + game do you keep your gear and mobs all scale up?
You keep everything, all you lose is key items. mobs do scale up, although not as much as i was expecting, they hit harder but still dropped fairly easily at the start of NG+ for me, maybe different further on.
cool, that makes sense.
Almost cracked and got it today still think it may be worth waiting for 2nd hand, is there any locked content if you dont buy it new?
No locked content.
Eleven hours into the game and I just rang the first bell. O.o
Tough game, but fun when taken seriously.
So, does anyone know if there is a way to link up with people you know in co-op or is it always random?
Only started but I did the prologue with a knight and now a pyromancer, I do like the Pyro better. Just getting used to the combat and controls, very responsive. Died quite a few times of course but loving it so far :)
Good luck Prism!
This was my favorite game of the year. I have 117 hours logged in one of my characters and 85 logged in another. And the game came out in October. O.o
That said, I am quite authoritative if you ever need any help.
Yea NinjaB, I might run a few builds by you or ask if you know anywhere to look for good builds. I'm considering starting a new character, as when I initially played the game during the first few weeks it was out I was very much in the dark as to what to do, and have ended up with a character not super-well developed. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Well, what kind of character do you want to play Grok? What level did you get your other character up to before you decided you didnt like your build? Then, what type of magic do you like to use, if any? Are you looking for a PvP build, PvE or general?
A few basic pointers:
1) As far as magic is concerned, I prefer miracles, but they do require an investment of faith. With 20 Faith though, you have a nice variety of miracles at your disposal that are just about always useful. You will probably need to a guide to acquire them though as there are several Convenant exclusive ones. Pyromancy is nice in that you dont need to boost a stat to improve it, just upgrade your Flame. Sorceries require a much more significant investment than the other two branches. They might be useful early in the game, but if you dont keep upping your Intelligence, the offensive spells you can get at Int 20 become pretty much useless halfway through the game. I hear the top level Sorceries like Crystal Soul Spear are ridiculously good, but I have never used them or seen them be used.
2) If you have play experience and you know what your preferred weapon is, dont raise your weapon stats (i. e. Strength or Dexterity) past what you require to wield them if you are trying to keep your level down. Since Lightning and Fire upgrades remove stat scaling, you will end up having wasted the points. They do little else other than increase scaling damage, which will still be drastically less than the damage bonus you would get from a lightning or fire weapon.
3) Try to know what speed level [over half, under half or under a fourth of weight] you want to play at before you set out. It's helpful to know the type and weight of the armor you want to use if you can. I recommend the Dark Souls Wiki for that type of info, but I have a lot of experience if you want to know what types are the best. Anyway, for a calculated build, you only want to put enough points into Endurance to cover your final weapons and armor choices at their total weight. You do get more Stamina, but that is only necessary for heavy weapons which will require more Endurance anyway.
4) Play the way you want to play! Yes there are PvP strategies and builds that blow normal stuff away. I strongly believe most of them are cheap and take a lot of the fun out of PvP. If you must win, go ahead. I think it's more rewarding to play in a way that I enjoy, trying to maximize my own strengths while minimizing my weaknesses, but doing so on my terms and not just what the easiest way is. It is sad to see a game with so much variation and personal choice of style be boiled down to everybody lag stepping and teleport back-stabbing. But such is gaming.
What a ramble! So what can I do for you again? ;)
I'm looking to make a good PVE build, maybe do some PVP. I'm thinking of doing a faith build, but I want to be able to equip decent armor and still stay under 50% if possible. Any pointers?
Grinded to 23 , but here's a question. Do mobs scale as you level ie first playthrough. So if I fight T Demon at level 7 he'll be relative to that level/fight at 20 he'd be tougher?
Got invaded last night was quite a shock, but alas I won by playing exactly as you pointed out there Ninja, to my strengths. Must have been a low level like me, he even tried to lure me to my death and I just swatted the mobs outta of the way! Interesting encounter though. Still not far in, took out Taurus Demon, and snuck under the bridge past the red drake to drop the ladder to the bonfire.
I'm starting to notice quickly what I'm good at and what I'm not, step by step still learning all the things the game/manual don't tell you :)
Grok: I use a faith/dex build and wear medium armor. At around level 105, my faith is 40. My Great Lightning Spear miracles sliced up Seath something fierce. I have close to 40 Endurance because I like to use the Dragonslayer Spear (weighs 10.0), but I still am under 50%. If you want to be really fast, you can get the Dark Woodgrain ring. If you are under 50%, it will make you move as if you are under 25% and allows you to do flips instead of rolling. I suggest looking up a guide for that one, but I can help you if you need it. I also use the Ring of Divine Favor and Protection (or the Curse Ring as I call it) but you will permanently lose a ring slot pretty much.
As far as good armor sets for a medium weight. The Elite Knight set found in Darkroot Garden is one of the best early on. The Paladin set is what I use now, but it is one of the heaviest medium sets. You can also mix and match to get a varied amount of defense and speed. The Elite Knight gloves are very light (since only one of them is metal) and provide solid defense, as does the Gold Hemmed Black Robe set. The Black and Silver Knight sets are pretty good with medium weights and the silver knight set is available in Anor Londo.
If you want to play a Faith/miracle character, I would recommend doing the Catacombs/Tomb of Giants first after acquiring the Lordvessel. Each of the four boss paths cater to a magic chain [Tomb of Giants = Divine; Duke's Archives = Sorcery; Lost Izalith = Pyromancy; New Londo = No magic] and you will be able to pick up better miracles, the Paladin set, and the upgrade materials for divine/occult weapons. You will be better prepared for the other paths.
Prism: Enemies dont scale with your level. As far as PvE is concerned, there is no disadvantage to leveling up as much as you want. Just be aware that PvP and co op are level dependent. You will have a harder time finding help for bosses if you are overleveled and you will be susceptible to invasions from people who are your level, which can increase the difficulty of your opponents who focus solely on PvP. Just be careful about being around level 40 and being in human form in a place called Anor Londo. That is a haven for experienced invaders who try to own up on people with less experience.
The manual and tutorial are pretty much useless for mastery of Dark Souls. I didnt even find the strategy guide to be that helpful. Solid experience is the only method. Good luck with that! :D
Let me know if you need more help.
Ninja B with some serious insight, knowledge is power. I'd have bought the guide too but i'll think i'll give it a miss now
Thanks NinjaB, good stuff. I'm pretty sure I'm doing a faith hybrid build, although I haven't decided on dex or str yet. I don't think it will be a huge issue on my new playthrough one as I get my vit/end/faith up and str/dex only to necessary levels. I'm sure I'll hit you up soon.
True even the guide isn't helpful when it comes to builds and stuff. Well I took out the mecha boar, I had a sliver of health and with that I just lured him out. Killed of the guards first, and then got splattered by him. I had like a sliver left and just used the stairs and little alcove that faces him to get his back all the time. Crossbow to get him to turn and charge me then roll back dip into alcove and axe his ass when he was going back. Took a little while doing it this way but very satisfying.
I knew about the level restriction for co-op so yeah something to be wary of. Ornstein/Smough maybe something I need help on lol
How did you guys fair with those two?
It's cool to know the enemies don't scale like that. You're right as well experience is everything.
O&S I didn't find terribly difficult, I was level 50-ish and summoned a friend. It's not too bad if you can split them up and hit them with fireballs (at least pre-patch). I'm sure the average level there now there is a bit lower, pure speculation though.
Glad I can help you guys out. I enjoy talking about Dark Souls almost as much as I enjoy playing it! ;D
Ornstein and Smough obliterated me soundly the first ten times I tried them, granted I was playing Solo. So I dropped my summon sign down and helped someone else beat em, and that gave me some confidence. He was using the crystal ring shield (which has since been nerfed) so they went down pretty easy. We even beat Smough first which is considered the difficult path. Using the point of humanity I earned, I summoned a player and Solaire. We beat Ornstein first so I was like ok, the easy route. Smough does his electric butt slam and kills my teammate and Solaire in 1 hit. I was terrified, but I kept my cool. I kited him with arrows for the next 30 minutes and killed him. There were some white knuckle close calls but I persevered and succeeded.
My second playthrough I did pretty much entirely in co op with my good friend. When I got to Anor Londo, I spent a fair amount of time at about level 40 to 50 just helping players beat O&S and protecting them from Darkwraiths. After doing the battle successfully about 15 times, I am not afraid of them anymore. I even soloed them one time as a phantom. The human player was very timid and I did it myself.
On that note, Queelaag's Furysword is a godsend in that battle. When it is fully upgraded, I could cut down regular Ornstein in less than 15 swings. It's a solid weapon period.
Let me know if you have trouble on the Capra Demon, Prism. He can be quite tough because of where you have to fight him.
I swear to god Capra Demon is near impossible solo, just due to the geometry of the map.
That's kind of funny, because I was having trouble fighting him in co op with my buddy in my newest game. I tried 2 or 3 times together with him. Then I went in and beat him solo on the first try.
That's another boss I was camping at, helping passers by on. I got the miracle Tranquil Walk of Peace. I messaged the player to stay back and to the left of the room. I Twalked before entering the room. This slows the dogs so they cannot rapidly follow you. The player runs up the stairs or behind the demon and things go swimmingly. It's those dogs blocking the stair case that is killer in my opinion.
That's a good strategy. The key is definitely to get one player to the stairs, that's why I always found it easier to go with someone else. That was one of the hardest bosses for me, along with the Four Kings and Seath. Although the later two are partially due to my bad character build.
I really need to get back into and finish this game. Last boss I did was Ornstein and Smough, took me 2 tries, solo. But I was level 80 or 85 at the time, now I believe I'm a bit over 90.
I'm 55 hours in and at least 20-25 hours have been spent grinding souls #)
It seems like everybody else has spent more time grinding than I have. I didnt start grinding extensively until patch 1.05 when you were able to purchase Twinkling Titanite at 8000 souls a pop. Even then there are spots that are much better for grinding, though you have to be in the right level range to utilize them effectively. I do farm some now, but it isnt to level it's to try to get rare materials (like Titanite Slabs).
Did any of you guys try in PvP in Dickstab Forest? I have some pretty fun stories about playing 2v2 in there.
I'm trying to grind at each bonfire as I reach them, going verrrry slowly through so far. Todays tasks: recover souls!!! get drake sword and attempt the bell gargoyles, although heavy knight and channeller stand in the way :( I'm in no rush through this experience really hooked in though, starting to really think about each run. Btw Elite guards with rapiers and bucklers can be nasty!
Dickstab Forest LMAO!!
lol I know, apparently it's a big pvp area and folk use cheap tactics.
Well, Prism you have the right attitude about advancing, but I wouldnt grind those Rapier Knights. Early on they can kill you in almost one hit with their parry attacks. When I started playing, I didnt even know that enemies could parry. So it was back to the bridge, back through the rats, back through that area with all the soldiers with the guys shooting crossbows, and then back through the mess hall with all the hollows... just to get another shot.
I was terrified when I got to the Heavy Knight for the first time. I ended up killing him on the first try by baiting him and then hitting him with firebombs. I was too far to mess around.
I sort of miss the fear of playing the first time, when I never knew what was around the next corner or how long I would have to go before the next bonfire. Alas that is the price of experience. Playing in human form mixes this up a little at least, since you never know when you might be invaded.
The PvP I had at the Forest was actually pretty fair for the most part. There were some cheap equipment strategies and also cowards, but it wasnt unbearable. I consider someone a coward, who has the audacity to enter my world, start fighting me, quickly start to lose, then try to run into an area with vicious ai enemies (feral cats I think). He can chill over there, I will just challenge the boss.
The final area on the other hand, every time I have been invaded, it has been a cheap lagstepper, which so many PvP whores swear by. They use the Dark Woodgrain ring and flip around, which I dont care about. But then they somehow lock you into a backstab from the front, I dont know if it's lag or what, and I dont care what anybody says, there is no fairness in that. Imagine if regular enemies could just back stab you from the front, no parry or anything. So I kind of lost my zest for PvP for a while. In normal PvP, it's incredibly fun and engaging, win or lose. That cheap stuff just takes all the fun out it.
Yeah I watched a video about the 180 turn thing, pretty cheap. Dying in the right place, it seems like something odd to say but it's true, being able to recover is vital.
I know this will sound funny, but I finally beat the last boss and went on to new game plus. I had been putting it off for a while, but now the deed is done. Soloed him. Died the first try. Beat him the second try. He isnt too bad at level 110, but he doesnt like to let you heal.
Having fun already in my new game plus. :)
Nice well done. I'm still at the burg bonfire! I had to go back and grind some souls just to boost faith for the basic heal miracle requiring faith 12 (8 start on pyro) just one of those things. I've out grown this bonfire long ago, got the drake sword but I'm saving it, time to step up now. Just getting the time to play is difficult right now. I think I've used the drake sword on two enemies just to test it but I'm saving it!
Starting to learn to fight better as well with different techniques and weapons, amazing how they are all so different and require different tactics!
Spears/halberd fricking rock though!
What level are you know Prism? I just made new character if you ever want some co op help sometime. I am at level 15 right now, but I am going to keep my level low to help out another friend.
Why are you saving the Drake Sword now? I hate the thing personally, because it fights like a broadsword, but it gets outdated pretty fast if you begin to upgrade your stats and weapons. It's useful to start, not so much later. It has no stat scaling, and it doesnt seem to hit as hard as its attack power reflects.
Spears are good in PvE but not so much PvP. Just be careful to keep an eye on your stamina!
Saving it for the Bell Gargoyles, but mainly just saving to avoid breakage, I have a repair box so shouldn't really matter. I think I'm @ 29, four levels just to put into faith lol it's done now. If I had have known sooner it would have been lesser req levels. Im getting like 5-10mins playtime which sucks, hopefully tonight I'll find time to ring that first bell! I have a ton of titanite as well so I should start using some of that.
I think this first few hours with the game have just been a big learning curve, dying to get things moving on but time has been an issue!
Oh and gotta love the bottomless box as well :)
Before the patch, you couldnt get the bottomless box until the depths. You kids have it so easy!
At the point you are at Prism, you could be considered a little overleveled, but that is not entirely accurate. Your equipment is more important at the stage you are in. I wouldnt sit on any titanite. You can always buy shards later. Better to use it and have a higher attack or defense. Also, if you have acquired the repairbox, weapon durability will only ever be an issue if you get hit with equipment corroding attacks. Regular use never puts much strain on a weapon with over 100 durability. You could use that drake sword for 5 hours straight and never need to repair it. Beyond that, weapons never break permanently (with the sole exception of crystal stuff). When they "break", they just become uselessly weak until you repair them.
Cool I think equipment is more important than all out soul level at least right now, doesn't hurt to get a little ahead so to speak. So I'll add using those t*ts. to the priority list, see what I did there! :)
You know what's stupid, I didn't even realize you could upgrade armor!
See that's what happens when the manual/game/guide(ok maybe the guide does I didn't know to look!) don't tell ya and everything is from scratch!!
Ok so here's where I am now, that first bell is done whoop!! talk about procrastination. Sitting on level 44 and thumping into stamina atm. Prowling Demon is gone and killed my first Black Knight<tough s.o.b.s., well relatively speaking. Continually learning more and more, especially about stamina/item discovery. I had 8 humanity in H form, and was at 198 discovery, died and lost one reversing hollow and went down to 192, interesting and something to watch out for.
So I'm gonna farm out the baldur set (have the leggings) from the sword/rapier dudes at the church as well as some titanite and then move on to the lower section. Capra Demon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I may need to call for some help if anyone of you fall in the range. We'll see what happens.
I think for sure I'll need help through either blightown/ sen's , I think I'm underestimating myself though, this game is not that hard!!!! :P
Oh and I've just hit the sweetspot with the game now, it feels like a personal journey sob! :'(
Keep reading this thread and dying to play this again, rented it from Lovefilm put alot of hours into it just started New Game+ but returned it.
Think im gonna have to buy it, Game of 2011 for me.
Quote from: Maibs on January 04, 2012, 01:13:50 PM
Game of 2011 for me.
Same for me. Hope you pick it up. If you do and want to do some co op or honorable PvP in NG+ let me know.
@Prism: You get 100 points of item discovery for being in human form. Then you get some points for every every point of humanity you have up to 10 humanity. The patch increased item discovery received from humanity overall. Best just to get the Covetous Gold Serpent Ring and be done with it though, but you cant get that until Sen's Fortress.
Sen's, by the way, is another beast entirely. It takes a completely different set of skills than what you will have used much so far. Dont want to give anything away though.
My closest character is between 80 and 90, but you will be that level in no time! :P I make a good guide for blighttown, and have guided folks through it several times.
Cool, sen's seems like buuhh I dunno, a crazy place. I'm gonna try the aural spell on the capra demon, I heard it works well to get rid of the dogs and get to the stairs. Some farming tonight for personal gain just for the sake, well I need it too and then hopefully boot his ass. Looking forward to the gaping dragon is he really that slow?
The Gaping Dragon is pretty slow, but he is capable of a few rapid maneuvers, as well as being able to damage you with just about any part of his body, whenever he moves. It's a battle of patience mostly. You are already overleveled for that fight! ;)
Aural decoy is a good idea. I suppose if that works you could also use one of those glowing skulls or whatever they are called.
It's got to be time consuming to farm for levels at the point in the game you are at. I would recommend shelling out for the Crest of Artorias if you plan on leveling more where you are.
What I'm doing now is changing to a lighter build for more speed, I don't tend to stick in close anyway so it suits me to have that roll speed. I managed to farm out all but two of the Balder set just missing the sidesword and buckler, the gauntlets were a pain to drop though. Just a little personal challenge. Alluring souls are rare I believe so I think I'll save them for later and go with aural decoy. I've plenty of ranged for the G Dragon fight, although I want that tail cut. Oh btw the Balder shield looks sweet as hell, it's a pity that the cape is cut short on the armor though :( but the set looks very spartan.
Crest of Artorias is the forest covenant right?
Alright it seems I missed that Andre sells the crest lol
Capra demon demolished, stood and banged with him first time out, a whole lotta fun that!
Almost ready for Blightown, word of advice though do not summon the npcs for the gaping dragon, they cause more hassle than they're worth. Anyway that axe is one mammoth to weald! off to the forest to grind moss and then we'll be all set, not looking forward to poisontown at all, narrow walkways eeeeww!!
What level are you now Prism?
Sitting on 50, gonna take the short route to queelag and push some territory on.I'll take her out ring the bell grab the gold helm set, maybe check a strategy for discharge so I don't have to sacrifice anything (maybe a sacrifice ring option there) but sensible to try and beat him I think. I've been slow going but I made some grinding choices that are paying off. Those basilisks weren't even a threat at all to me lol.
After queelag I don't know, maybe moonlight butterfly/hydra before sens, but I do wanna push territory as priority.
There is an easy way to beat ceaseless discharge. I wont give it away unless you want though. Or you can search for it. After you know, you could probably beat him easy at level 1. Those Hydras are no joke though.
lol wow ceaseless easy win is right, I just found that out! that is sorta cheap though. valid :) didn't play much last night but I did some pvp in the forest 1-3 very mixed bag. First fight dude with lightning spear and eagle shield had him beaten until I fell off the edge doh, second fight havel armoured guy went up behind and backstabbed before I got ktfo badly, third was fun real cat and mouse around the trees trunks at the entrance gold helmed and katana guy was going alright until he got the bleed on me :( and the only win came kinda cheeky but it's not against the rules!!!
And then bam disappointment when I found out how to get more orbs, maybe I'll join the forest covenant and defend it. Pvp is excellent though.
How difficult is this game really? It's £14.99 from Zavvi in their Monday deals, I didn't know whether to pick it up?
It's difficult to define. If you consider yourself a skilled player who enjoys a challenge, I think it is manageable. You cant just plow through it. The game requires more patience and strategy than typical games in this genre. I was psyched out too, but I decided to buy it on impulse and I am incredibly glad I did.
You definitely need patience. I don't know how many times I've had to kill the same enemies over and over just to get to a boss, die and redo it all again. But I have never felt that it was boring because I find the combat to be really fun and well done. If you like rpgs at all you need to give this a try, it's not like any other game out there, except for Demon Souls of course.
Quote from: NinjaBBehrens on January 22, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
It's difficult to define. If you consider yourself a skilled player who enjoys a challenge, I think it is manageable. You cant just plow through it. The game requires more patience and strategy than typical games in this genre. I was psyched out too, but I decided to buy it on impulse and I am incredibly glad I did.
There's the problem, I only consider myself an average gamer. I don't mind a challenge but this does sound like I may find it too hard. I probably won't waste the money.
Thanks for the input guys.
My friend who I beat the entire game with only considers himself average, and he did have a fair amount of trouble early on, but he loves it now and excels at PvP. The curve is rough at the beginning, but if you can secure some help it isnt that hard. I love this game too much to not recommend it to anyone who expresses any interest.
Still, good luck with your decision.
I've decided against getting it, at least for the time being. It does sound too difficult for me, and I've only just scratched the surface of Skyrim so won't have time to play it anyway. Maybe in 6 months time I may consider it, depends if I've got bored of my other games by then.