Was wondering If any of you guy's use R4 cards in your DS's.
I have two for each of my kids, and they save me a fortune. each card can hold between !5 to 30 games depending on size.
www.r4ds.cn
A video on how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEcdHG-DDkU
kills your battery though .. but whats the price of a new battery every now and again compared to free games.
I have 3. They are awesome. Not had no battery issues yet. But as you said better than paying a fortune for unreasonably priced games.
I have not got tonnes of games for wii and psp. There is only my xbox that is clean
I bought an M3Real card a few months ago.
I played GTA: Chinatown Wars about halfway through and then went straight back to my Xbox 360 + 42" 1080p.
I just can't get into something on a 3" screen anymore. That's why I play old GBA games on my modded Wii.
Isn't there massive pixelation from playing a small game on a massive TV ?
I don't have a DS (traded it for my PSP) but i've been downloading ROMS for my mate while his internet is down for a few weeks now.
Quote from: Failed on July 10, 2009, 03:11:48 PM
Isn't there massive pixelation from playing a small game on a massive TV ?
It's surprisingly bearable. I use the upgraded Component cables for my Wii, which helps a little. But the emulator's texture enhancing working with my tv's pixel-smoothing features makes it look no worse than any of the non-HD ports on Xbox Live Arcade.
I most recently played Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu (http://www.gamespot.com/gba/action/riseofsintzu/index.html?tag=gallery_summary;title). The game actually looks and plays very smooth. A lot of handheld games have very clunky controls that don't translate well to a controller, but Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu was very precise.
I have to admit i love my r 4 got loads of games on it some good most just fun. Its good to have when your stuck somewhere with nothing to do like at the in laws
bought a card for vicki's ds and it's cool. got a 2 gig micro sd with it, already got 26 games on it and still nearly a gig left. got quite a few for games on there for me too :P
I don't think anyone will be bothered by this but I thought i'd share it. :)
DS pirate carts now illegal in UK
R4 cartridges, which are used to play pirated copies of games on the Nintendo DS, are now illegal in the UK.
A judge ruled against R4 company Playables Limited and Wai Dat Chan, making it illegal to import, advertise and sell R4 carts in Britain.
The "first-ever" judgement was made after the London High Court ruled the carts were illegal because they bypass the DS's security measures in order to run games.
"Nintendo promotes and fosters game development and creativity, and strongly supports the game developers who legitimately create new and innovative applications," Nintendo said in a statement.
"Nintendo initiates these actions not only on its own behalf, but also on behalf of over 1,400 video game-development companies that depend on legitimate sales of games for their survival.
In the U.K. alone, there have been over 100,000 game copying devices seized since 2009, Nintendo said.
Playables Limited and Wai Dat Chan argued that game copiers were lawful because they allow for the play of "homebrew" applications. Obviously that didn't work.
right thats it i'm reporting everyone in this thread to the police...although I can never remember anyones real names!!
well that's pissed on my chips... :(
I don't think the law prohibits the use of R4 cards. Only the commercial sale of them.
I also wonder if the law only affects "R4" cards specifically, because there are a lot of other devices that do the same thing that aren't associated with the R4 company.
now it's illegal, i've threw mine in the bin and will now only buy legit copies of Imagine Babies.
R4 cart ban: More details emerge
More details have emerged from the High Court ruling that R4 cartridges have been banned in the UK.
Eurogamer has obtained a copy of the High Court of Justice Chancery Division's judgement in favour of Nintendo against defendants Playables Limited and owner Mr Wai Dat Chan.
The case concerned "a number of different types of devices imported and dealt in" by Playables.
Devices are defined as those which "enable Nintendo DS users to play unlawful copies of Nintendo DS games which they have downloaded using the internet".
That's what Nintendo means when it says "game copiers".
But what, exactly, has been made illegal?
According to the report, the R4 DS, M3 DS, DS One Supercard, DSTT, DS Linker, Acekard, CycloDS Evolution, N5 and EZ devices were under scrutiny.
Some are still listed on Playables' website.
They contain either built-in memory or a further slot of their own which accommodates a micro-SD flash card.
They also contain circuitry, software and data that enable them to pass the tests performed by the Nintendo DS to verify the game inserted is genuine.
The case concerned the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1998, and Nintendo's claim that games were copied into the random access memory in the course of using Playables' devices.
The judgement reveals the steps Nintendo takes to prevent loading unlawful copies of its games:
The shape of the connector arrangement of the slot on the DS and the corresponding shape of the game cards designed to fit into it; the boot up software permanently stored on the Nintendo DS, which checks for the presence on an inserted card of the Nintendo Logo Data File (NLDF) and prevents execution of programs present on the inserted card if the NLDF is not detected; and the use of shared key encryption technology and scrambling to enable the DS to detect whether game cards are authentic.
Are all "effective technological measures" taken by the Japanese company to protect itself.
The judge found in favour of Nintendo because it proved the devices circumvented them.
So, what does this mean?
It means that it is now illegal to manufacture, import, distribute or sell in the UK any device that is "primarily designed, produced, adapted or performed for the purpose of enabling or facilitating the circumvention of the ETM employed by Nintendo to protect its copyright".
Simply owning a relevant devices is not illegal. But it's probably best not show it off to your mates.
Apparently, Nintendo has seized "more than 165,000 game copiers intended for" Playables. That's a lot.
The Hon Mr Justice Floyd, who made the ruling, wrote: "Each game card has the code relevant to the NLDF installed on it. I cannot see how it can be said that Nintendo authorised the copying of this into RAM.
"The accused devices are much more than the reel-to-reel tape recorders in CBS v Amstrad (1998).
"They are templates for infringement."
Playables had argued that it did not know or have reason to believe that the devices would be used to make infringing copies.
It also said there are lawful uses for the devices, such as playing homebrew games.
The judge said neither argument had merit.
"It needs to be kept in mind that the focus of this requirement is on circumvention.
"The fact that a device may be used for a purpose which does not involve infringement of copyright does not mean that the sole intended purpose is not the unauthorised circumvention of a technical device."
Wai Dat Chan did not appear and was not represented at the ruling.
Chan did not respond to requests for comment from Eurogamer.
stop charging £30.00 for games then, if they were priced at £15.00 brand new and a tenner pre owned the that would be a more realistic price point for a lot of ds games that only take a few hours to complete.
Quote from: DFUSIONITE on July 29, 2010, 06:30:13 PM
stop charging £30.00 for games then, if they were priced at £15.00 brand new and a tenner pre owned the that would be a more realistic price point for a lot of ds games that only take a few hours to complete.
I could not agree more.
One of the first things I learned studying Business was ... You cannot change the market. A business is dictated by the market, and can never control the market.
Trying to fight piracy is an attempt to change the market. You cannot force people to buy your products. You can make your products more attractive to people, which is honestly what they should be doing.
The gaming, music, and movie industries refuse to accept that the world has changed, and therefore requires them to change with it. Instead, they're trying to make the world change back for their benefit. It's never going to happen.
Numerous retailers ignoring R4 ban (http://www.ripten.com/2010/07/30/numerous-retailers-ignoring-r4-ban-in-uk-stores-brycew/)
shirley they can sell the R4 cards for what they are, a memory card adaptor that you can stick a msd in and then add the DS files. Therefore make the DS files illegal and not the cards themselves.
Quote from: Failed on July 31, 2010, 10:54:38 AM
shirley they can sell the R4 cards for what they are, a memory card adaptor that you can stick a msd in and then add the DS files. Therefore make the DS files illegal and not the cards themselves.
Makes sense to me and don't call me Shirley ;D
just wondering--been on my usual download site and a lot of files have 'dissapeared' have they been made to stop file sharing then or is it just coincidence ???
Quote from: DFUSIONESS on August 15, 2010, 01:43:43 PM
just wondering--been on my usual download site and a lot of files have 'dissapeared' have they been made to stop file sharing then or is it just coincidence ???
yes, theres a news story around here somewhere...I'll have a look.
EDIT - sorry can't seem to find it, maybe i dreamt it?
The news story is in this thread, R4 cards are now illegal so expect quite a few sites to close down (the games were already illegal of course) still plenty of sources for your gaming needs though. :)
:-[
Quote from: GamerMan316 on August 15, 2010, 02:21:05 PM
The news story is in this thread, R4 cards are now illegal so expect quite a few sites to close down (the games were already illegal of course) still plenty of sources for your gaming needs though. :)
fusioness says thanks. Oh and apparently rom freaks is still ok for now. :)
Quote from: Lukehi on August 15, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: DFUSIONESS on August 15, 2010, 01:43:43 PM
just wondering--been on my usual download site and a lot of files have 'dissapeared' have they been made to stop file sharing then or is it just coincidence ???
yes, theres a news story around here somewhere...I'll have a look.
EDIT - sorry can't seem to find it, maybe i dreamt it?
no probs i did manage 2 get hsm 2 4 ellie so the rom freaks site( kindly suggested by gamerman) is still ok if anyone needs the link jus ask as am on my phone atm an it wont let me unless gm would be kind enuff 2 link it 4 me
Quote from: DFUSIONESS on August 15, 2010, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: Lukehi on August 15, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: DFUSIONESS on August 15, 2010, 01:43:43 PM
just wondering--been on my usual download site and a lot of files have 'dissapeared' have they been made to stop file sharing then or is it just coincidence ???
yes, theres a news story around here somewhere...I'll have a look.
EDIT - sorry can't seem to find it, maybe i dreamt it?
no probs i did manage 2 get hsm 2 4 ellie so the rom freaks site( kindly suggested by gamerman) is still ok if anyone needs the link jus ask as am on my phone atm an it wont let me unless gm would be kind enuff 2 link it 4 me
You mean this one? :)
http://www.rom-freaks.net/
Quote from: GamerMan316 on August 15, 2010, 04:32:38 PM
Quote from: DFUSIONESS on August 15, 2010, 04:22:46 PM
Quote from: Lukehi on August 15, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Quote from: DFUSIONESS on August 15, 2010, 01:43:43 PM
just wondering--been on my usual download site and a lot of files have 'dissapeared' have they been made to stop file sharing then or is it just coincidence ???
yes, theres a news story around here somewhere...I'll have a look.
EDIT - sorry can't seem to find it, maybe i dreamt it?
no probs i did manage 2 get hsm 2 4 ellie so the rom freaks site( kindly suggested by gamerman) is still ok if anyone needs the link jus ask as am on my phone atm an it wont let me unless gm would be kind enuff 2 link it 4 me
You mean this one? :)
http://www.rom-freaks.net/
thats the one cheers hunni :-*
I use pirate bay normally has everything I need
does anyone know of any ds sites that still work
Quote from: fizz on October 25, 2010, 04:52:28 PM
does anyone know of any ds sites that still work
i do
well are you going to tell me or do i have to get the information out of you :-*
There are still loads of DS rom sites floating about, another way to get them is by using torrent sites, preferably ones that have comments on the quality of the downloads, at least that way you'll know if the game will actually work on an R4 card or not, as quite a lot need patching first.
www.naspev.com
tis the one im using atm, not amazing to navigate, but gets the job done
cheers guys will have a look when i get a mo xx
me thinx the boy needs a slap >:(
cheers failed the site looks good, are the roms guaranteed to work though
link doesnt seem to be working, it was before, i broke it :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: fizz on October 26, 2010, 12:53:18 PM
link doesnt seem to be working, it was before, i broke it :'( :'( :'(
Working fine for me.
i think i need to use the main pc, netbooks are crap
Quote from: fizz on October 26, 2010, 10:48:19 AM
cheers failed the site looks good, are the roms guaranteed to work though
nope
okay, will just have to take pot luck on them i guess, thanx for the link btw :-*
most work, it's what i use. I did end up with a French one the other day and my mate couldn't get a game to work. 2 out of the 20 odd games we downloaded this fortnight aint bad. I'm playing Dragon Quest and Puzzle Quest 2 atm.
Anyone know a good R4 card fairly cheap, been looking thru some sites but theres like 50+ different cards, dunno where to start, guessing they mostly all do the same thing but dont wanna order the wrong one/dodgy site.
ive got a NDSL thanks.
now i fixed the pc i will be back downloading this week, want some kids games for ellie for xmas, as im now working xmas morning >:( she will need to be entertained so guess what im doin this week x
Quote from: fizz on November 21, 2010, 12:21:09 PM
now i fixed the pc i will be back downloading this week, want some kids games for ellie for xmas, as im now working xmas morning >:( she will need to be entertained so guess what im doin this week x
dressing up as The Scarecrow and singing all Wizard of Oz songs, backwards. Entertaining?
hmmm, didnt think of that, damn , im not good at singing anyway,
had a look at the site, is there a search function or am i going to have spend hours trawling through looking for what i want
also do i need anythin to open the files like winrar , help
there is a search function and you will need to unzip your files, but Windows might do this naturally (WinZip?) without the need for WinRar.
great stuff , i got winrar anyways so it will be fine , cheers hunni x
the best way to find out how deep the water is, is to jump in !!
really, i will go and jump in then x
Quote from: Failed on October 25, 2010, 05:02:08 PM
www.naspev.com
site has been shutdown but romfreaks is still going, also limewire has been served with an injunction, now where am i gonna get my music
Quote from: fizz on December 24, 2010, 12:42:26 PM
Quote from: Failed on October 25, 2010, 05:02:08 PM
www.naspev.com
site has been shutdown but romfreaks is still going, also limewire has been served with an injunction, now where am i gonna get my music
Naspev still works fine for me ???
Limewire got served a couple of months ago which annoyed a lot of people, I juse use Utorrent now.
hmm, mystery, well i found a site were the games work 100% everytime, there's going to be a very happy 8 yr old tomorrow morning
I bought myself an R4 card with a 2GB memory chip. I've been wanting to get ione for ages, and now that there's a Doctor who game on DS that I can't afford, now seems to be the perfect time. Shame I'll have to wait a couple weeks for it to arrive.
So, do you just load the .nds ROMs onto the card or do you have to convert them to another file type or what?
Just pop .nds onto card and launch from ds, really easy, also naspev till works for me, or sign up for demonoid.com and you can download any DS and the torrents are pretty speedy.
You may need to put the R4 software on the memory card, sometimes you can buy the R4 with it already loaded, most of the time you need to do it yourself.
and Update the software every 6months or so, then you'll have less trouble playing the latest games
I think the last time I turned my DS (with R4) on was to play GTA Chinatown Wars ... about a year ago.
Can you use these to play emulators aswell, for SNES and stuff? Because that would come in unbelievably handy. Even though an infinite number of free DS games will be enough of a time sink as it is >.<
I wasn't expecting it for another couple f weeks but it arrived today and I've wasted no time getting a shitton of RPG's loaded up and ready. The website for downloading the firmware only works in Internet Explorer though for some reason so I had to reinstall that today. Other than that this thing is great. Now all my money can go on Xbox games instead of DS and Xbox games. :D
I've been playing Monster Racers atm, tis like a cross between Pokemon and Sonic.
Quote from: Legion on December 31, 2010, 07:56:37 PM
Can you use these to play emulators aswell, for SNES and stuff? Because that would come in unbelievably handy. Even though an infinite number of free DS games will be enough of a time sink as it is >.<
I abuse the emulator capabilities. More so than actually playing DS games. Nothing like some Streets of Rage and Super Street Fighter II to pass the time on long trips.
Neato what you emulating on ds,dslite,dsi? I thought you couldn't do it on a dsi though.
Quote from: Windedprism on April 20, 2011, 08:34:13 AM
Neato what you emulating on ds,dslite,dsi? I thought you couldn't do it on a dsi though.
I have an original (fat) DS. The red limited Mario Kart edition.
My WP7 phone has pretty much monopolized my handheld gaming needs. I'm actually looking to get rid of my DS.
ah k,I take you can only emulate using the extra slot which the dsi doesnt have:(
Quote from: Windedprism on April 20, 2011, 04:47:55 PM
ah k,I take you can only emulate using the extra slot which the dsi doesnt have:(
I use the M3Real Pefect Bundle (http://www.kickgaming.com/m3-ds-real-perfect-bundle-p-277.html), which does include a "GBA Expansion Pack".
I'm not sure of the GBA Expansion Pack is used for emulators. I have the whole bundle perma-installed in my DS. No reason to take it out, as I no longer own any actual DS games.