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Title: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 11, 2009, 06:53:39 AM
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Post by: Failed on November 11, 2009, 07:46:53 AM
Depends how good it's gonna be, that EyeToy Pet on PS3 is supposed to be quite innovative. If it's 30 then i might just get for the sake of it, especially if some easy achieves are involved!
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Post by: nCogNeato on November 11, 2009, 09:31:48 AM
The report says 14 games will go on sale alongside the new tech

That's already a larger catalog than the combined support of the Wireless Microphone, Vision Camera and Big Button Pads.

(http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/84283978-5619-436B-89A1-B3AE29149E9F/0/ilgwirelessMicrophone.jpg)(http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/DE85BF96-C2B6-4416-86D8-A6659CF830AC/0/packagingxbox360vision.jpg)(http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/F3F1B312-3342-4813-A204-9502D58808C7/0/stnsceneitcontrollers001.jpg)

That is at least encouraging.

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Post by: nCogNeato on November 11, 2009, 09:32:25 AM
EyeToy Pet on PS3

That thing gives me the creeps.



... I want it.

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Post by: Failed on November 11, 2009, 10:29:25 AM
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Post by: TaraJayne on November 11, 2009, 11:10:55 AM
I want all of it.
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Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 12, 2009, 08:16:38 AM
I want all of it.
So do I.
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Post by: GamerMan316 on November 12, 2009, 08:23:22 AM
I liked the look of it when it was originally shown at E3 and i'm sure it will bring a lot more people to the 360, especially if the rumoured price is true, i doubt i'll bother with it though.
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Post by: GamerMan316 on November 18, 2009, 06:01:52 AM
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Post by: GamerMan316 on November 24, 2009, 06:17:06 AM
Devs to get Project Natal tips at Gamefest in Feb.

With Project Natal on schedule for a 2010 arrival, it's no surprise that Microsoft's annual Gamefest conference will offer programming tracks designed to get developers up to speed on how best to design for and implement the technology in their Xbox 360 games.

The tech summit, which runs from February 10 and 11 in Seattle will offer two types of Natal-themed sessions. The first, Project Natal Design, promises to help devs with "creating new ways to work, building showcase experiences, divining user intent, and designing gestures for UI versus game interactions." The second, Project Natal Technical, will "dive deep into gesture recognition, avatar retargeting, speech recognition, advanced raw stream processing, handling different player environments, and many other topics."

Avatar re-what? Advanced raw stream huh? $100 says Microsoft just hands attendees Minority Report on DVD.
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Post by: GamerMan316 on November 30, 2009, 06:26:14 AM
Natal: Largest leap in TV since remote control
Microsoft's Marc Whitten talks big on 360's new technology...

Marc Whitten, general manager of Xbox Live, says that he believes Project Natal will be "the largest leap of TV experience since the remote control".

"I don't believe we are currently in the golden age of the television or the golden age of the game console or the golden age of the internet," Whitten said at the Streaming Media West show, reports Yahoo Tech. "Frankly, five years from now I don't know that you'll be able to tell the difference between those worlds."

Whitten also sees a future where Natal does away with remote controls but not replacing them, as they're "already too hard."

"With the flick of my wrist I can change a channel," he explains. "With the power of my voice I can start a movie."

Too ambitious and far fetched for 360 or something you'd genuinely look forward to and use?
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Post by: Failed on November 30, 2009, 06:30:09 AM
"shoot TJ, chainsaw Darkmaster, plant frag on left column .... sprint, cover, roll left, 2 piece sambo" ... hmmm, gears is gonna be fuuunnnnn

*Please note, for the safety of others this post contains large amounts of sarcasm.
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Post by: TaraJayne on December 01, 2009, 05:51:16 AM
I am looking forward to it.
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on December 03, 2009, 02:25:11 AM
"shoot TJ, chainsaw Darkmaster, plant frag on left column .... sprint, cover, roll left, 2 piece sambo" ... hmmm, gears is gonna be fuuunnnnn

*Please note, for the safety of others this post contains large amounts of sarcasm.

Could'nt have put it better.You'll be able to here me whinging in stereo! Won't be able to see me though,I'll be playing MW2.
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Post by: Failed on December 03, 2009, 05:25:27 AM
NEWS FLASH FROM FAILED NEWS

Modern Warfare 3 to use Natal in Multiplayer
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Post by: GamerMan316 on December 03, 2009, 05:29:44 AM
NEWS FLASH FROM FAILED NEWS

Modern Warfare 3 to use Natal in Multiplayer

Thats me not playing it then  :P
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Post by: GamerMan316 on December 17, 2009, 05:39:11 AM
Microsoft: Core games 'sell themselves,' Project Natal will broaden audience

Microsoft's taken steps to appeal to the casual crowd, sure. The first was NXE, which brought us all things like Avatars and Netflix, with subsequent updates adding Facebook, Twitter and Last.fm. These are experiences meant to broaden the appeal of the Xbox 360 to casual gamers, a group that Microsoft spokesperson David Dennis told GI.biz is pretty tricky to hook.

Project Natal will play a big part in Microsoft's continuing goal to interest more casual players, Dennis said. He compared the interactive, controller-less experience to having the broad appeal of a title like Wii Fit -- something Dennis calls "an experience done right" that goes beyond the core yet still manages to "capture the imagination of the core." It's this dual-catering that Dennis thinks Natal excel at, as he predicts the hardware will enable experiences that the core will look forward to, as well as "casual game experiences that are easy to jump in and play."

In the interim, we offer Microsoft this ProTip for appealing to more casual players: Make more games with "Party" in the title. Who doesn't like a party?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 18, 2009, 06:43:29 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 06:52:12 AM
Leaked footage of Half Life 2 on Natal (http://www.n4g.com/tech/News-450226.aspx)
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Post by: xnightcrawlerxx on December 30, 2009, 08:08:41 AM
i want to be excited about natal, i just have a feeling that it'll be full of bugs
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 08:18:39 AM
i want to be excited about natal, i just have a feeling that it'll be full of bugs

I have a feeling that it will be a failure, depends on the price of course.
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Post by: nCogNeato on December 30, 2009, 09:49:53 AM
Leaked footage of Half Life 2 on Natal (http://www.n4g.com/tech/News-450226.aspx)

That looked frustrating and nausiating.

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: sambo on December 30, 2009, 01:02:42 PM
Leaked footage of Half Life 2 on Natal (http://www.n4g.com/tech/News-450226.aspx)

 Looked cool and sh*t at the same time!!!
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Post by: TaraJayne on December 30, 2009, 06:17:55 PM
Leaked footage of Half Life 2 on Natal (http://www.n4g.com/tech/News-450226.aspx)

 Looked cool and sh*t at the same time!!!

Sambos right it did look cool and sh*t and so sh*t its cool. I want it!!!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 06:43:05 PM
like life it'll fail miserably, just you watch
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Post by: TaraJayne on December 30, 2009, 06:54:01 PM
Life doesnt fail unless you let it. But really I dont think it will. That video is leaked so its not quite the finished article
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 06:56:50 PM
this generations Eye Toy
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Post by: TaraJayne on December 30, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
Thats fine with me I liked the eye toy :D
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Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 07:01:39 PM
Thats fine with me I liked the eye toy :D

fair enough but it was an awful addition to what in all fairness wasn't even a good console & it flopped worse than Dirk Diggler when he realised Ann Widdecombe would be his next on screen partner!
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Post by: TaraJayne on December 30, 2009, 07:15:46 PM
Did you just basically say the PS2 wasnt a good console ???
The eye toy did flop I presume but I always used it for Buzz games and Singstar.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 07:22:43 PM
Did you just basically say the PS2 wasnt a good console ???

Yep, just never liked the console, despite all the praise heaped upon it, it was only marginally more powerful than the infintely better Sega Dreamcast, and once the superior Xbox was released that was it, didn't touch the PS2 until Metal Gear 3 came out, once that was done, I sold it.
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Post by: TaraJayne on December 30, 2009, 07:32:38 PM
I had problems selling mine last year to be honest. So many good games. I preferred the Dreamcast but after that failed I got well into the PS2. I didn't play the Xbox much just San Andreas and Shenmue 2 but I had those on other consoles. Oh and I loved Halo and Sniper scope. I thought the Xbox was the worst out of them all though. I still have a soft spot for the Saturn too.
The PS2 was a huge success. I did prefer my Dreamcast though
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 07:39:48 PM
The PS2 still is a huge success, it still outsells everything in Japan bar the Wii & DS, even selling more than the PS3, but for me I just never really liked it, I guess it's just me, I think the original xbox was superior in every way, except for needing a tow truck to move it of course.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on December 30, 2009, 07:46:48 PM
I dont see it at all.
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Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 07:51:03 PM
I dont see it at all.

What don't you see?
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Post by: TaraJayne on December 30, 2009, 08:00:26 PM
I just cant believe you seriously thing the PS2 wasnt a decent console. We should agree to disagree ;)
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Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2009, 08:07:08 PM
I just cant believe you seriously thing the PS2 wasnt a decent console. We should agree to disagree ;)

right, sorry, i was thinking you were questioning how the xbox could be superior, my bad!!!

I originally said that the PS2 wasn't a good console, which for me it wasn't, i'm in the minority but then I always am, decent console? yeah it probably was but I much preferred the xbox.
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on December 31, 2009, 03:53:18 AM
I loved my ps2and never played the original xbox at all.Only got a 360 coz it was cheaper! Made the right decision though.
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Post by: Failed on December 31, 2009, 04:53:47 AM
I picked up a cheap xbox just to play Halo with my mate in coop. I picked up a 360 for the same reason, Halo 3.

I had a PS2 for Final Fantasy

The PS2 was better because it had more games and they weren't all shooter :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 31, 2009, 06:14:15 AM
I knew i'd be in the minority  :)
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Post by: GamerMan316 on December 31, 2009, 06:39:46 AM
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Post by: GamerMan316 on December 31, 2009, 06:54:33 AM
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Post by: xnightcrawlerxx on December 31, 2009, 12:07:01 PM
I knew i'd be in the minority  :)

ps2 sucked.  :)
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Post by: nCogNeato on December 31, 2009, 12:46:58 PM
I knew i'd be in the minority  :)

ps2 sucked.  :)

I agree.  My PS2 broke after 2 years (and Sony didn't replace it).

My original Xbox was a tank.  I'd still be using it as a Media Center if I hadn't traded it in.

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 07, 2010, 05:51:51 AM
Microsoft says Project Natal coming 'holiday season 2010' (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/microsoft-says-project-natal-coming-holiday-season-2010/)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on January 07, 2010, 09:35:12 AM
Yay :)
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 07, 2010, 11:03:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji_1UQU--ig
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Post by: DFUSIONITE on January 07, 2010, 12:46:01 PM
lmao thats very funny  :D
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 07, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
It made me laugh :D
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on January 08, 2010, 02:02:13 AM
Superb.Can imagine some people thinking that's real!
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 04:01:15 AM
How many times do you think Milo will get beaten up. I couldnt do it because it would seem wrong but I bet some people will ;D
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Post by: GamerMan316 on January 08, 2010, 04:56:54 AM
Milo must die!!!!!!
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 04:58:47 AM
Milo must die!!!!!!

But ....hes just a child :'(
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Post by: Failed on January 08, 2010, 05:00:51 AM
oh want someone, please think of the children
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Post by: GamerMan316 on January 08, 2010, 05:03:43 AM
Milo must die!!!!!!

But ....hes just a child :'(


I don't care, he's pure evil and must be stopped.
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 05:07:45 AM
I am going to get a Milo and look after him so well. I am going to ignore my own children and focus on him. He seems so obedient. We are going to compare our art work and tell stories by the pond.
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Post by: Failed on January 08, 2010, 05:10:23 AM
I am going to get a Milo and look after him so well. I am going to ignore my own children and focus on him. He seems so obedient. We are going to compare our art work and tell stories by the pond.

he'll leave you eventually to go to robot mecha with Robot Jude Law to learn about the blue fairy so he can become a REAL BOY
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 08, 2010, 05:10:50 AM
I don't why i'm even bothered, I won't be getting Natal so the destruction of Milo won't be an option, hopefully someone else will destroy him in all manner of fun and cool ways and post videos for my viewing pleasure  ;D
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 05:15:25 AM
Craig you are not coming anywhere near my Milo. You bully

He wont leave me Failed because I will be the best mummy ever
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Post by: Failed on January 08, 2010, 05:19:09 AM
I don't why i'm even bothered, I won't be getting Natal so the destruction of Milo won't be an option, hopefully someone else will destroy him in all manner of fun and cool ways and post videos for my viewing pleasure  ;D

Sneak into Tara's and beat up her Milo ... who can be effectionatily named punchy!!
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Post by: GamerMan316 on January 08, 2010, 05:19:53 AM
Craig you are not coming anywhere near my Milo. You bully

I won't but if your real kids become a little disillusioned with all the time you're spending with a crappy AI child, then I may have no option, it's for your own good  :D  and i'm not a bully, just a concerned friend!!!
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 05:22:16 AM
I don't why i'm even bothered, I won't be getting Natal so the destruction of Milo won't be an option, hopefully someone else will destroy him in all manner of fun and cool ways and post videos for my viewing pleasure  ;D

Sneak into Tara's and beat up her Milo ... who can be effectionatily named punchy!!
:o Thats so mean
I wonder if he will eventually grow into a man ;)
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Post by: Failed on January 08, 2010, 05:41:58 AM
i wonder if you'll turn punchy gay with all the love and attention ?! he needs a strong male figure in his life to punch him ... like craig!
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 05:44:53 AM
i wonder if you'll turn punchy gay with all the love and attention ?! he needs a strong male figure in his life to punch him ... like craig!
Ok first of all hes not called puchy (lmao@punchy). Also the good love of a mother doesnt turn a kid gay and second  or third  :-\we can manage on our own. If his father doesnt want to be a part of his life then it his loss. He doesnt need a substitute :P
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 05:53:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyIfL0PbTo

lol I never looked at it from a male point of view
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Post by: Failed on January 08, 2010, 06:12:23 AM
you'll all be sorry when Punchy takes over the world all skynet style
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Post by: GamerMan316 on January 08, 2010, 07:18:46 AM
Charlie knows the score & he's spot on too.
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Post by: DFUSIONITE on January 08, 2010, 08:44:56 AM
well i am going to get a milo i don't care what people think, my daughter has always wanted a brother. and every time she is naughty i am going to smack milo and say to her, look see what you made me do! that should mess with her head lol   ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: sambo on January 08, 2010, 10:21:38 AM

I wonder if he will eventually grow into a man ;)

(http://generationfilm.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/psycho_shot5l.jpg)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 08, 2010, 10:55:02 AM
OMG! It's Norman Bates .... What's that Mother?
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 08, 2010, 12:09:35 PM
lmao sambo
Dfuse your sick ;)
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Post by: xnightcrawlerxx on January 08, 2010, 03:18:37 PM
now i have to get a natal just so i can kill my milo


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Post by: TaraJayne on January 09, 2010, 04:18:49 AM
What is wrong with you all ;D
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Post by: GamerMan316 on January 09, 2010, 05:03:22 AM
now i have to get a natal just so i can kill my milo

I think I might join you on that, Microshaft's sick filth must be stopped
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on January 09, 2010, 05:35:23 AM
What is wrong with you all ;D

I like Milo-sort of guy you would'nt mind taking down the pub with your mates and introducing him as "my virtual friend".
Would cause some stares!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 09, 2010, 05:42:00 AM
Tell the landlord to put your beer on Milo's tab.
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Post by: NeuroticSarge on January 09, 2010, 05:46:07 AM
Tell the landlord to put your beer on Milo's tab.

Didn't think he smoked!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 13, 2010, 07:14:15 AM
Bach: 70-80% of publishers working on Natal-based games

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/10/dsc_0045robbie.jpg)

In an interview with Financial Post, Microsoft president of entertainment and devices Robbie Bach said "something like 70% or 80% of the publishers in the world" are already working on Natal-based games. The interview followed Microsoft's CES 2010 keynote during which Bach announced the hands-free controller for the Xbox 360 would launch during the 2010 holiday season. Bach also respectfully outlined what he believes is the major difference between Microsoft and Nintendo's respective business models: third-party success. "Our model is certainly about third-party publishers making money. We design our system for third-party publishers," he told the Canadian news outlet. "[Nintendo makes] most of their money through first-party games that Nintendo produces. That's absolutely their business model. And it's a great business model, it's just different, but it makes it hard for third-party publishers."

As for upcoming Natal-based games, Bach said Microsoft's first-party developers are focused on the hardware to help lead other developers down an "innovative" path. "We want to have a few titles from Microsoft that show the way and then we want the breadth and power of the ecosystem from our partners to bring lots of new ideas, new innovations, new concepts to the marketplace."

Microsoft's Project Natal appears to be a direct response to a mainstream audience that has turned to Nintendo's hardware when spending disposable income. Considering the Xbox 360 and PS3 have effectively cracked the third-party code, Microsoft's focus continues to be set on capturing a demographic that may feel intimidated by the hardware and its core (read: jerkface) players.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 13, 2010, 07:35:36 AM
Capcom making "gamer's game" for Natal

Capcom is promising not to treat Natal as a "gimmick", and has revealed that a "gamer's game" is in development for the motion-sensing Xbox 360 camera.

It won't be ready at Natal's launch this autumn, Capcom's vocal business boss Christian Svensson told G4TV, but will be a game from a brand "we haven't seen in a while".

"What we're doing is creating it from the ground up for Natal, in this case," Svensson said. "We're not looking at Natal as, 'OK, here's a little Natal gimmick that we've worked into some existing game.'

"The approach is we're gonna make a 'gamers game' for Natal using something amongst our brand history," he continued. "I know [Keiji] Inafune is really excited about it, he's been very vocal both in Japan and with the media about his vision of what Natal brings. I'm going to have to ask you to wait and see.

"We're not going to be at launch, just to temper the expectations," he added. "We're gonna cook something and it's gonna to take a while to cook."

Keiji Inafune created Mega Man, for what that's worth.

But before all that, Capcom will patch Resident Evil 5 to work with Sony's new motion-sensing toy, the PS3 magic wand. That's out this spring, although Sony's still not officially named the device.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 15, 2010, 04:52:20 AM
Develop: Devs divided on Natal potential

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/01/projectnatalpopsci.jpg)

We became considerably more concerned about Project Natal's future when we learned (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/07/natal-to-use-10-15-percent-of-xbox-360-cpu-power/) it would be pulling its processing power from the 360 and it would seem that the development community is similarly conflicted. In a feature by Develop (http://www.develop-online.net/features/742/Develop-Jury-The-potential-of-Natal), probably the most important party in the peripheral's success, the developers, weighed in on the device with a mixed bag of concern and enthusiasm.

Though there was a good amount of positivity and skepticism, the overwhelming sentiment is in line with Weaseltron director Adrian Hirst's wait-and-see attitude: "Microsoft need to start showing some real killer games/applications for Natal before people really start getting interested in it as a platform."
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 21, 2010, 05:40:46 AM
Spencer: Project Natal launch 'fraught with risk' for Microsoft

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/06/natal061009.jpg)

Speaking to Eurogamer, Microsoft Game Studios head Phil Spencer responded to criticism that Microsoft takes fewer risks than Sony in first-party development by referencing Project Natal -- "if there isn't risk in Natal then I don't know what's keeping me up at night."

"We're trying to build a set of new games, new experiences that will have the same quality metrics of our past games," he said, "but really entice both existing 360 customers and new people. It's a huge challenge, a huge investment and it's fraught with risk."

Much as he did in our interview, Spencer equated Natal integration with Live integration, suggesting that it will eventually be ubiquitous. "At the beginning of Live it was all about sports, racing and shooting games," Spencer said. "Now if you found a game that didn't have some kind of Live functionality it would seem like it wasn't a complete game. I think Natal is likely to get there as well." That is somewhat at odds with Aaron Greenberg's statement that Natal games would be almost entirely "completely unique, brand-new experiences."

And, as a bonus, he also found time to make one wacky statement about Peter Molyneux. "Haha! Working with Peter is amazing, he's a very creative, inspirational person. Sometimes it's like riding a bull with no saddle, and sometimes it's like reading a great novel, but it's a fun experience." Look for Peter Molyneux's Literodeo among the Project Natal launch lineup.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: sambo on January 24, 2010, 11:27:57 AM
Project Natal - The Innovation Journey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_UzcnTYqc4
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 24, 2010, 12:22:14 PM
I'm still not sold on Microsoft's Eyetoy, sorry Natal, yet, need to see some actual gameplay footage and not just PR stuff  :)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on January 24, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
I hope we do  get Natal this year. I am really looking forward to it
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 24, 2010, 05:23:17 PM
I hope we do  get Natal this year. I am really looking forward to it

It's looking like a lock for Autumn this year and it will get the jump on Sony's Arc or whatever it's called at the moment, as they've apparantly delayed it.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 27, 2010, 06:08:47 AM
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Post by: TaraJayne on January 27, 2010, 06:27:33 AM
Well Alan Sugar turned said the iPod will never take off and Bill gates said  nobody would ever need more than 640KB of memory on their personal computer.  Also nobody imaganed the wii would be as succesful as it is  so you cant really tell until its put out there. I dont think it will be a huge success but I think it will become just as poular as Guitar Hero and Lips etc.
I am going to pre order it
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on January 27, 2010, 10:09:39 AM
... I dont think it will be a huge success but I think it will become just as poular as Guitar Hero and Lips etc.
I am going to pre order it

Ditto.

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 09, 2010, 03:59:53 AM
Former EyeToy exec warns of the difficulties facing Natal, 'Arc'

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/02/gameyetoyplaylogo580.jpg)

In a recent interview with GamesIndustry.biz, Jamie MacDonald, former Vice President of Sony Worldwide Studios (the company responsible for EyeToy), gave out a few pointers to Sony and Microsoft regarding their respective motion controllers. MacDonald warned that gamers are expecting more from the 360 and PS3's motion gaming than they do from the Wii, due to both consoles' beefier hardware. However, he also warned about implementing "traditional long-form gameplay," lengthy sessions of which would leave players "completely knackered."

MacDonald's wisest words came when speaking about pricing the two pieces of hardware. He suggested they follow Sony's strategy with EyeToy, where the peripheral and a piece of software came bundled for the price of a normal game, which kept consumers from "paying a premium for the hardware." That's a sweet thought, but it's a little presumptive -- after all, we've yet to hear a price for the two devices. (Hell, we haven't even heard a name for one of them.)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on February 09, 2010, 04:39:57 AM
sound advice, the peripherals will come with a game i think. Just like the camera, buzzers or mics do on the respective systems. The game is bound to be tat though, the only games that would get me to buy natal would be puzzle games.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on February 09, 2010, 05:42:07 AM
I just want a Milo
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 09, 2010, 05:46:55 AM
Milo is dead, he drowned in his little pond after falling in looking at his reflection in the water, as Natal has no way of actually pulling anything from the screen, the tester in control at the time was powerless to help, though he later told Police that Milo got what he deserved, sad but true.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on February 10, 2010, 05:25:06 AM
Not even funny :D :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 10, 2010, 05:29:06 AM
Not even funny :D :D

Tragedy rarely is Tara
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 15, 2010, 12:27:57 PM
Microsoft bringing 'large franchise' to Project Natal
Hardcore-sounding Xbox series set to land on motion device

Microsoft is developing a new iteration of a 'large franchise' to work with Project Natal - and the mystery title reads like a hardcore game.

The info comes from a new Microsoft job ad spotted by CVG for a Level Designer. The candidate will work on a 'Project Natal Job' at the firm's Redmond Campus in Washington, US.

The job ad reads:

'MGS is looking for a talented, motivated and experienced Sr. Level Designer who can create innovative game-play solutions for a large franchise.

'The Sr. Level Designer is expected to implement major gameplay features to high quality, focusing on creating and implementing level designs. Qualified individuals are expected to be organized, with excellent communication skills, both verbally and written, and have a proven track record in AAA game design.

'Must have a clear understanding and experience creating mission/environment design, look and feel, AI, combat, strategy, game-flow, and balance. We want somebody who can put forth ideas without fear, and build off other people's zany creations.

'Candidates who find fault with other people's brainstorms to prove how smart they are need not apply. Candidates must have passion for a broad range of game experiences, and be well versed in market trends and styles. While years of experience are a definite plus, positive creative energy and a wealth of genius ideas is a must. This is a rare opportunity to join a seasoned, creatively driven team on an exciting next-generation project.'

'Experience creating mission design... AI... combat'?

This sounds very much like a core franchise to us. Then again, the bit about building 'off other people's zany creations' is less exciting.

What do you reckon it could be?

It better not be Gears  >:(
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 15, 2010, 12:32:36 PM
Aaron Greenberg on Project Natal's five-year lifespan
Microsoft exec distances tech from Sony's EyeToy in CVG interview

Microsoft has predicted that games will be created for Project Natal for the next five years - and rubbished claims that the hardware is comparable to Sony's EyeToy camera.

When asked by CVG how MS felt about accusations that Natal was simply a "jazzed-up EyeToy" at X10 last week, Microsoft's director of product management for Xbox said:

"We obviously could have done a motion controller if we'd have wanted to do that, but we felt that would be a much more interruptive experience. We had an opportunity here to really do something that's transformative and brings a whole new category of experiences to life.

"Now we're saying to creators: 'We can see when you move your hand, when you move your feet, we can track your body. I can stand in front of this sensor and it can recognise my face and know if it's me, or my brother or my sister.'"

Greenberg then forecast a rosy five-year future for Natal:

"The richness of the technology is going to really enable experiences that never had existed before," he added. "And we're not just speaking about what we're doing this year, but I think two, three, four, five years from now as this evolves.

"Millions of consumers this Holiday will be able to experience Project Natal and this is just the beginning of something that will change the way consumers interact with entertainment and change way our publishing partners think about game development."


Less talk and some gameplay footage would be nice, not the crappy tech demo stuff either or shaky fake cam rubbish, actual real gameplay footage, is it too much to ask for???  :)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 15, 2010, 12:55:08 PM
Check out Microsoft's awful Natal promotion, this time used in the tv show Smallville, terrible, it's the way the whole segment avoids subtlety to such an extent Microsoft would have been better off just screening a proper Natal commercial during the ad break instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4HomEnDzXI
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on February 15, 2010, 04:45:43 PM
HOLY CRAP PROJECT NATAL MAKES YOU FLY ....
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on February 16, 2010, 09:41:32 AM
Check out Microsoft's awful Natal promotion, this time used in the tv show Smallville, terrible, it's the way the whole segment avoids subtlety to such an extent Microsoft would have been better off just screening a proper Natal commercial during the ad break instead.

lol

I saw that earlier this week.  So awesomely bad.   :D

I think Microsoft must have some grip on Smallville's product placement, because I've noticed a lot of Windows 7, Xbox, and other Microsoft related shameless plugs in recent episodes.

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on February 20, 2010, 10:18:53 AM
that was god awful. the word fun was mentioned way too much.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 23, 2010, 03:57:37 AM
Jonathan Ross plays Natal on camera

Jonathan Ross was videoed playing Project Natal last night at a glitzy Microsoft event in London.

The renowned presenter and comedian was filmed swatting balls away in one of Natal's previously exposed mini-games.

Of note is the fraction-of-a-second difference between Wossy's actions and those replicated on screen. A video caption assures us this will be trimmed as we get closer to the device's autumn launch.

"They say that be release all lag issues will be resolved and response time should be nearly instant," the pop-up read.

MTV Multiplayer had a similar experience but approached Natal with a more scientific brain, analysing five play-tests and recording the results.

"I had a pretty large sample size, sitting through 5 demos, capturing about 40 different movements from a variety of journalists. Across those 40 movements, the fastest life-to-screen transition was .08 seconds, while the slowest was .12 seconds. A tenth of a second was the consistent average, though," concluded MTV Multiplayer.

"What that means is that, in its current state, Natal is not instant, one-to-one motion capture."

Nor was it at gamescom last year, when Digital Foundry produced extensive analysis of Project Natal lag and its implications in a variety of scenarios.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGvYFAYqRRw
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 23, 2010, 04:06:05 AM
Valve slams 'sh*tty party games'
Developer pledges never to make a 'tiresome' Natal mini-game

Valve has slammed "sh*tty" motion control party-games - and, despite expressing interest in Project Natal, has pledged never to place a 'tiresome' mini-game for the device in Left 4 Dead.

Speaking exclusively to CVG ahead of the release of Left 4 Dead 2 DLC The Passing, Valve writer Chet Faliszek said that the studio believes Project Natal is "really cool" - but begged other developers not to waste the opportunity it presents.

"Hopefully we've gotten past the point of mini-games," he said. "I'm sick of that [makes arm movement]. That's not a game for me anymore. Let's get some real interaction going.

"We have these technologies now that let us interact in different, really exciting ways. It's developers' jobs to do something with it. Impress me. Don't just make sh*tty games I wouldn't want to play if I had to use a joystick."

When asked if Valve was looking to put Natal compatibility in any of its future Left 4 Dead games, Faliszek added:

"We'll see. You won't have to make the arm movement of sawing off a zombie's head in some tiresome mini-game. I can promise you that."
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: xnightcrawlerxx on February 23, 2010, 12:56:52 PM
Valve slams 'sh*tty party games'
Developer pledges never to make a 'tiresome' Natal mini-game

Valve has slammed "sh*tty" motion control party-games - and, despite expressing interest in Project Natal, has pledged never to place a 'tiresome' mini-game for the device in Left 4 Dead.

Speaking exclusively to CVG ahead of the release of Left 4 Dead 2 DLC The Passing, Valve writer Chet Faliszek said that the studio believes Project Natal is "really cool" - but begged other developers not to waste the opportunity it presents.

"Hopefully we've gotten past the point of mini-games," he said. "I'm sick of that [makes arm movement]. That's not a game for me anymore. Let's get some real interaction going.

"We have these technologies now that let us interact in different, really exciting ways. It's developers' jobs to do something with it. Impress me. Don't just make sh*tty games I wouldn't want to play if I had to use a joystick."

When asked if Valve was looking to put Natal compatibility in any of its future Left 4 Dead games, Faliszek added:

"We'll see. You won't have to make the arm movement of sawing off a zombie's head in some tiresome mini-game. I can promise you that."

thank god.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on February 23, 2010, 01:31:49 PM
Valve know about good games, they won't make wii xbox Sports Island
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: markav on February 23, 2010, 02:03:44 PM
Jonathan Ross plays Natal on camera

Jonathan Ross was videoed playing Project Natal last night at a glitzy Microsoft event in London.

The renowned presenter and comedian was filmed swatting balls away in one of Natal's previously exposed mini-games.

Of note is the fraction-of-a-second difference between Wossy's actions and those replicated on screen. A video caption assures us this will be trimmed as we get closer to the device's autumn launch.

"They say that be release all lag issues will be resolved and response time should be nearly instant," the pop-up read.

MTV Multiplayer had a similar experience but approached Natal with a more scientific brain, analysing five play-tests and recording the results.

"I had a pretty large sample size, sitting through 5 demos, capturing about 40 different movements from a variety of journalists. Across those 40 movements, the fastest life-to-screen transition was .08 seconds, while the slowest was .12 seconds. A tenth of a second was the consistent average, though," concluded MTV Multiplayer.

"What that means is that, in its current state, Natal is not instant, one-to-one motion capture."

Nor was it at gamescom last year, when Digital Foundry produced extensive analysis of Project Natal lag and its implications in a variety of scenarios.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGvYFAYqRRw

If Natal was any good there would be a silhouette of a cock on the screen
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on February 23, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
If Natal was any good there would be a silhouette of a cock on the screen

It took me far too much time realise what you meant.  I don't know who Jonathan Ross is, so I was out of the loop.   :D

I was thinking ... "Man.  That markav guy must be hard to please if he demands a penis in a game before he likes it...  :-\"

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: markav on February 23, 2010, 02:46:16 PM
If Natal was any good there would be a silhouette of a cock on the screen

It took me far too much time realise what you meant.  I don't know who Jonathan Ross is, so I was out of the loop.   :D

I was thinking ... "Man.  That markav guy must be hard to please if he demands a penis in a game before he likes it...  :-\"


Johnathon Ross=cock         hope that helps!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on February 23, 2010, 02:47:34 PM
If Natal was any good there would be a silhouette of a cock on the screen

It took me far too much time realise what you meant.  I don't know who Jonathan Ross is, so I was out of the loop.   :D

I was thinking ... "Man.  That markav guy must be hard to please if he demands a penis in a game before he likes it...  :-\"


Markav lies. Thats not what he meant.  You told me you are looking forward to the cooking Mama spoof on Natel. Its called cook my sock  :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: markav on February 23, 2010, 02:50:29 PM
I look forward to the demonstration of gears on natal that will have us see Mr Ross weilding a water gun and doing "roly poly's"

"roly poly's"=rolling around looking like a c*nt
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on February 23, 2010, 02:52:37 PM
As much as I am looking forward to Natel I hope they dont do that to Gears. Not a big Ross fan then are we not? ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on February 23, 2010, 03:51:05 PM
I don't think he thinks too much of that Ross dude.  I don't know why, just an impression I get....  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on February 23, 2010, 05:04:11 PM
I don't think he thinks too much of that Ross dude.  I don't know why, just an impression I get....  ;D

Racer.  You, sir, have an uncanny intuition.   ;D

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 23, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
Natal will have bombed before it can be implemented into Gears, at least I hope so  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on February 23, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Natal will have bombed before it can be implemented into Gears, at least I hope so  ;D

you are wrong. natal will be AWESOME!!!!   (in small doses)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 23, 2010, 06:07:19 PM
an awesome failure, just you watch  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on February 24, 2010, 02:11:58 AM
Natal will have bombed before it can be implemented into Gears, at least I hope so  ;D

Or gears will be bombed and forgotten by then!  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 24, 2010, 03:18:02 AM
Natal will have bombed before it can be implemented into Gears, at least I hope so  ;D

Or gears will be bombed and forgotten by then!  ;D

well there is that, though with close to 15 million in sales, I think it's safe  :)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 24, 2010, 04:24:41 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on February 24, 2010, 04:48:03 AM
Woo yeah I cant wait Natal will rock.  :)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 24, 2010, 12:20:11 PM
Woo yeah I cant wait Natal will rock.  :)

Sadly it will rock like The Jonas Brothers and not rock like The Who or Queen or Led Zeppelin or any other totally awesome rock band, hopefully Milo will have been reincarnated by the time Natal is released so we can all kill the little freak again  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on February 24, 2010, 12:21:51 PM
Well either way I am looking forward to it
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 24, 2010, 12:58:30 PM
Well either way I am looking forward to it

I am too, as you can tell from all my massively supportive posts on the topic, I think I might like it a teeny bit more than MW2.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on February 24, 2010, 01:13:16 PM
Well either way I am looking forward to it

so am i
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: xnightcrawlerxx on February 25, 2010, 10:42:16 AM
i have to agree with crak on this one. if i wanted to look like an idiot while gaming, i would turn on my son's wii.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 25, 2010, 10:51:02 AM
There's much more to Milo, says Molyneux

Peter Molyneux has hinted that he has much bigger plans for Project Natal, stating that virtual character Milo is only part of the picture.

Speaking to Inc Gamers about the E3 demo of Milo & Kate he said, "It made people look around and say, 'How could you make a game out of a character like Milo?' And I think that question is still out there; I'm just not allowed to answer it.

"I might hint... Milo is a character in a bigger and more dramatic story that we're telling."

Molyneux made similar noises later on in the interview, saying, "The frustrating thing is that I am veiled. Three and a half minute experience at E3, featuring Milo, which is a character - a single character - and it was exhibiting some of the technologies that we could do with Natal.

"I didn't say anything more than that, and whether that was the whole game or not, and I think you'll just have to wait and see how that fits into a much, much, much bigger and much more dramatic picture."

Milo made his public debut at E3 in 2009 and was met with much comment and criticism. From the likes of Charlie Brooker, for example, who suggested no one over the age of 30 will be able to play Milo & Kate without "looking and feeling like a paedophile". So what does Molyneux have to say to that?

"Well, I think it says more about Charlie Brooker than it does about Milo," he said.

Expect more from Milo at this year's E3 and possibly even at the Game Developers Conference, which kicks off next month - we'll be there to write things down about it if so.


Gotta love some of the responses from the Eurogamer readers  ;D

"Well, I think it says more about Charlie Brooker than it does about Milo," he said.
Oooh, get you Peter! At least Charlie Brooker is capable of creating something entertaining about computer games rather than an over-rated mess of a "game".


"Achievement Unlocked- Touched a Child 25g"


If they are in Fable 3 and i can stick a cursed sword through their heads then i'm all for it otherwise i really couldn't care less about Milo or Natal.
Quick question about Natal. How do you stop punching Milo?


I for one keep thinking about Peterphile's previous "revolutions" in interaction: Black & White's creature (smack or stroke it, it just ignores you and fucks off to sh*t in the food storage and throw villagers into the sea before starving to death because it kept throwing away the food you were giving it) and Fable (blow off without following through 50 times to convince the entire town of your greatness and to receive several offers of marriage. Thumbs up!) and expecting a similarly crushing disappointment. Seriously, f*ck off with this sh*t and go back to making proper games like Syndicate and Magic Carpet.

Brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on February 25, 2010, 11:16:35 AM
Its all very funny but some people should understand that gaming isnt just about them. We all have different tastes so variety is good.  :)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 26, 2010, 04:55:28 AM
Pachter: Natal more than $50 after all, DSi XL won't sell

In a stunning show that game industry analysts indeed are fallible human beings, Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter has changed his mind on Natal's supposed price. The prolific analyst prognosticated last year that price would be the primary factor in moving Natal hardware, leading him to predict that it would launch for less than $50. However, he now tells IndustryGamers that it will likely cost more, noting, "consumers will come to believe that the product and software has a lot of value." Furthermore, Pachter says that the higher that Microsoft and Sony price their motion controls, the less likely a consumer is to buy the competing product. In other words, if you spend $100 on Natal, you probably won't be too keen to plunk down another $100 for Sony's motion controller (and vice versa).

Pachter also tackles the DSi XL. He has some choice words for the beefy handheld, pointing out the $60 difference between the DS Lite and DSi XL models. "I'm not sure that bigger screens provide the value that Nintendo thinks," says Pachter, adding his belief that the entire DS line is due for a price cut. He concludes the device won't succeed at launch "since it costs only $10 less than a Wii."

Other topics discussed include Richard Garriott's foray into social media, the marketing of Dante's Inferno and the specter of third party success on the Wii -- "most third party Wii games just plain suck," says Pachter.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on February 26, 2010, 10:32:18 AM
Patcher's a fan boy  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 28, 2010, 07:21:28 AM
Natal - Which Games Will Work?
How Microsoft's new technology can reinvent old ideas...

Microsoft's Natal has generated a lot of discussion amongst 360 owners.

One of, if not the most important, of Microsoft's key aims is to generate fresh ideas and new IP with Natal. Its motion-sensing technology definitely lends itself to a new breed of game that hasn't been possible with the 360 pad - dancing games, 1st person fighting games and so on.

Even so, despite the drive for innovation there are still a lot of people who tend to frame Natal by old ideas. How would Gears of War work on it? What about Fable III? Or even XBLA classics such as UNO?

What Would Work

Horror Games


The slower pace of horror games could work well with Natal. Given immersion is half the battle horror games fight to ensure they can effectively deliver the scares, natal could be a pretty useful vehicle for them. Not to mention the potential for gimmicks such as shining torches in Alan Wake, aiming plasma cutters in Dead Space and motioning for the 360's off button in Alone In The Dark.

RTS Games

We're not entirely sure how it would work because hey, we're just writers and not developers. But imagine a 'virtual' map where you draw circles around the units you want to select and then point at where you want them to go, or what you want them to attack. 360 titles such as Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 and Lord of the Rings: Battle For Middle-Earth II wouldn't have to battle with the 360 pad anymore, as Natal would enable them to work with more fluidity. In theory, of course.

Command RPGs

While the actual system of moving about could be awkward, the menus could work really well in a Minority Report type manner, where you move your hand to indicate which option you want. It's a rather arbitrary way of stapling new technology to an old idea but implemented properly, it could work. So in this case, that means the likes of Final Fantasy XIII and Lost Odyssey could have worked the technology into its gameplay.

Sports Games - Tennis, Golf, Cricket, XBLA

The reason these games would work with Natal is that they don't require much foot motion. Tennis is the obvious exception but movement would be limited to a small, defined area - that'll be Virtua Tennis. Same with cricket which means Brian Lara Cricket and Ashes Cricket are candidates, and golf is a static sport, so Tiger Woods would work (feel free to make your own Tiger Woods joke here). XBLA would also allow for smaller games focusing on particular features of sports games - Quarter-back throwing, taking penalty kicks and so on.

What Wouldn't Work

Fast Paced Shooters

Although we can't see it happening, there's a chance that some of the slower cover shooters could translate to Natal somehow. Just a chance mind you. What wouldn't work are the fast-paced twitch shooters. So that's Unreal Tournament, Quake, F.E.A.R. and the like discounted. Then again, would you want to play them on Natal?

Sports Games - Football, Ice Hockey, Basketball

How would they replicate you being able to run entire length of the pitch? Or court? There's no way we can see it happening, unless you have a living room the size of a football pitch and Natal can pick up your movements as you're miles away lingering offside, screaming for the ball to be kicked over the top. No matter how hard we try, when we think Natal we don't think FIFA, NBA Live or NHL.

Platformers

It's not like 360 has been swamped with platformers since it came to market but honestly, can anyone even begin to think of a way that the likes of Tomb Raider would work with Natal? Alison Carroll might be able to play it but those of us lacking the ability to cartwheel and jump around our living rooms would probably find that type of game only really works with a pad.

Beat-'Em-Ups

They'd work if they were reworked into a first person viewpoint. Maybe. They definitely wouldn't work in their current form - like fast-paced FPS games, beat-'em-ups require quick and complex inputs to successfully work and that's something Natal is not suited for. Plus they wouldn't work as 2D brawlers anyway, unless you've all been slying practicing hurricane kicks in your living rooms for the past few years for this very moment. Street Fighter on Natal? Nah.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 05, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
Xbox 360 'still for the hardcore'
Microsoft says Natal won't affect console's offering to main audience

Microsoft has reassured hardcore gamers that its mainstream push on Xbox 360 - and the release of Project Natal - won't hurt the attention it gives its hardcore consumers.

The platform holder is releasing Xbox 360 exclusives this year that include Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Halo: Reach and Fable III.

"From the beginning, Xbox has always had a very deliberate strategy to focus on core gamers and then expand the market," European Xbox boss Chris Lewis told trade magazine MCV.

"Project Natal is meant to complement, not replace, the experiences [for this audience] on Xbox 360.

"We've reached new heights in creating a more natural and responsive gaming and entertainment experience for people of all interests and skill levels, whilst maintaining our commitment to deliver quality core games that consistently exceed expectations."
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 05, 2010, 10:12:07 AM
Natal will affect the games I play about as much as the Scen-It controllers did.   ;)



Personally, I'll be buying Natal, if only to use to navigate my dashboard and XBL Marketplace.  It would also be pretty nice to be able to pause a movie by saying "Pause" instead of having to search for my remote.   ;D

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: markav on March 05, 2010, 10:39:20 AM
Natal will affect the games I play about as much as the Scen-It controllers did.   ;)



Personally, I'll be buying Natal, if only to use to navigate my dashboard and XBL Marketplace.  It would also be pretty nice to be able to pause a movie by saying "Pause" instead of having to search for my remote.   ;D


It will also satisfy the needs of lazy buggers ::)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 05, 2010, 10:49:40 AM
It will also satisfy the needs of lazy buggers ::)

It will ....  ???




Dude, I am TOTALLY BUYING IT !!!!    ;D

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 05, 2010, 11:15:08 AM
Did I hear Neato just claim the Natal is a microphone?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 05, 2010, 11:52:03 AM
Did I hear Neato just claim the Natal is a microphone?

It has voice-recognition (http://projectnatalgames.org/project-natal-voice-recognition/).

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 05, 2010, 12:01:42 PM
Oh. Well, sure. I bet you believe everything you read on the interent. ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 05, 2010, 12:25:37 PM
Oh. Well, sure. I bet you believe everything you read on the interent. ;)

Should I not?       ???



 ;)

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 05, 2010, 05:45:06 PM
Well, all of this is really 'PRENATAL
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 05, 2010, 10:29:21 PM
Well, all of this is really 'PRENATAL

You're so cheesy.   ;D

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 06, 2010, 05:09:17 AM
lol, what an aweful pun.

Theres gonna be a new Mortal Kombat game coming out for it, although the only new thing so far are the new NATALITIES >_<

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 06, 2010, 06:53:56 AM
The King of overhype talks about Natal, again!!!

Molyneux: Natal upgrades "countless"

Peter Molyneux has moved to dampen fears over Project Natal lag, insisting there have been "countless revisions of cameras and countless revisions of software" since the demo units shown to press and celebrities in recent weeks were produced.

Following a recent London showcase, British TV personality Jonathan Ross commented via his Twitter account that Natal was "not quite there yet", which prompted Microsoft PR to confirm the hardware and game demo Ross played dated back to summer 2009.

Molyneux, who hosted an event with non-specialist media early last week at the same venue in London's Fitzroy Square, expressed his frustration at not being able to show the latest iteration of the Xbox motion-control technology.

"It's always a huge frustration as a designer when you see somebody play a version when you know it's been exceeded many times over," he said, speaking in an exclusive interview with our trade-only sister site GamesIndustry.biz at Lionhead Studios earlier this week.

"It so often happens, because you do a version for a show and then you don't do another version because you're too busy developing the game."

He added: "So very often you get a position that what a person's looking at is two, three, four months, a year old and you kind of want to go, 'no, no, it's 10 times better than that!' So it is very, very frustrating; it always is - there's just countless revisions of cameras since the one at X10 and countless revisions of software."

A Microsoft source went as far as to claim the Natal camera used in the London demos was only "one-tenth as responsive" as the latest iteration. The company is expected to reveal the final version of the hardware and the launch line-up of compatible software at E3 in July, with a release expected in the autumn.

Meanwhile, Molyneux revealed his excitement ahead of speaking at next week's GDC, stating: "I'll be showing off Fable III and we'll be making some announcements about [the game] and I've got a talk which is going through some of the big features. I'm really excited to show all the stuff."
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 06, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
lol, what an aweful pun.

Theres gonna be a new Mortal Kombat game coming out for it, although the only new thing so far are the new NATALITIES >_<



lol, you all know you took that one to the bar with you last night and brought the house down with it.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 06, 2010, 09:33:29 PM
lol, what an aweful pun.

Theres gonna be a new Mortal Kombat game coming out for it, although the only new thing so far are the new NATALITIES >_<



lol, you all know you took that one to the bar with you last night and brought the house down with it.

I did ...



If by "the bar" you mean "a friend's house".  And by "brought the house down" you mean "got kicked out".

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 08, 2010, 09:20:35 AM
lol, what an aweful pun.

Theres gonna be a new Mortal Kombat game coming out for it, although the only new thing so far are the new NATALITIES >_<



lol, you all know you took that one to the bar with you last night and brought the house down with it.

I did ...



If by "the bar" you mean "a friend's house".  And by "brought the house down" you mean "got kicked out".



Well, not exactly, but sounds like it worked out really well for you then!  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 09, 2010, 04:40:52 AM
Microsoft bringing 'the full lineup' of Natal titles to E3

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/01/ricochetwithbasketballs580px.jpg)

GDC 2010 is the hotness this week, but according to Microsoft's Mindy Mount (speaking at a tech conference in NYC), E3 should be fun this year, too. As you might expect, Microsoft is bringing "the full lineup" of Project Natal titles to the convention in June.

We know there are a whole bunch of developers working on Natal titles, including EA, Capcom, Forza Motorport's Turn 10, and SpawnPoint Studios. Mount promises that Microsoft is "putting some of our best people on coming up with great game ideas for this, and we're going to have some great stuff." We'll start working out now to make sure we have enough stamina to flail our limbs all week long.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 09, 2010, 09:37:45 AM
that pic is goofier than anything I've ever seen on a Wii. That includes flying shoes and panda heads!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 10, 2010, 05:37:44 AM
Your right but it looks fun ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 10, 2010, 06:01:32 AM
If Natal is anything like 'Your In the Movies' then forget it!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 10, 2010, 08:13:54 AM
If Natal is anything like 'Your In the Movies' then forget it!

Or anything like Sony's crappy eye toy, then double forget it!!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 10, 2010, 08:30:20 AM
I didnt mind the eyetoy
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 10, 2010, 09:43:51 AM
I didnt mind the eyetoy

We're talking about the PS3 eyetoy, btw....  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 10, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I didnt mind the eyetoy

We're talking about the PS3 eyetoy, btw....  ;)

I want that creepy little eyetoy pet alien thing.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_j5nG-wHyYDs/SPfWBPZSY3I/AAAAAAAAAGE/psznONWOBU8/s400/eyepet_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 10, 2010, 02:28:28 PM

I want that creepy little eyetoy pet alien thing RAN OVER.


i agree
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 11, 2010, 03:35:31 AM

I want that creepy little eyetoy pet alien thing RAN OVER.


i agree

Well it was created by Sony so it should burn in hell, but it is cute  :-[
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 11, 2010, 10:53:03 AM
I was talking about the PS2 eyetoy :-\
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 12, 2010, 09:15:32 AM
Molyneux: Natal is bigger step than Move

Peter Molyneux has told Eurogamer that he doesn't think PlayStation Move is the same kind of step forward as Microsoft's Project Natal, but admits he fancies a crack on Sony's new magic wand controller.

"I have seen some of it. We're not really surprised, are we? I mean at E3 last year we saw they were having a wand, and that's kind of what I expected. It looks like they've taken a step forward but it's not as big a step as something like Natal, I don't think," Molyneux told us in an interview at GDC (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/peter-molyneuxs-question-time-interview).

"This is purely me talking personally, but I think maybe it's slightly more a device for the core than it is for the casual market, because I think it's quite precise.

"As a designer it's another one of those things I'd love to get my hands on and to play around with. As a consumer, everyone's talking about motion control now - I mean, I'm starting to get confused. It's kind of like the arms race, with the Wii MotionPlus and now the Sony Move and now I'm getting kind of confused."

Asked what he thinks of Move relative to Natal, Molyneux said it was "down to what us poor old designers do with this stuff, because all these guys do is make the hardware".

"Whether we utilise that hardware in a real way or whether we just take shortcuts, that's really going to be where we succeed or not."
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 12, 2010, 09:25:14 AM
That may be the most sensible thing I've ever seen Molyneux say.  Not one mention of his supernatural ability to sh*t gold bricks.   ;)

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 12, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
That may be the most sensible thing I've ever seen Molyneux say.  Not one mention of his supernatural ability to sh*t gold bricks.   ;)



Or his overwhelming ability of promising one thing then completely not delivering on said promise, he's amazing at that  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 12, 2010, 12:49:57 PM
Aaron Greenberg responds to PS3 Move
'Controller-free experiences are the future' says MS exec

Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg has responded to the announcement of Sony's PS3 Move - saying that "controller-free experiences are the future of gaming".

Praising the innovation of Project Natal - buy coyly failing to directly mention PS3 Move - Greenberg added that Natal will "transform" entertainment in the home.

When TheBitBag asked Greenberg what he made of Move, he said:

"Xbox 360 has a strong history of innovation. Halo, Xbox Live and instant-on 1080p HD. With each of these, we had our sights set on the future - and it paid off for us, the industry and Xbox 360 owners. We are doing it again with Project Natal on Xbox 360. We believe controller-free experiences are the future of gaming and entertainment.

"Only Project Natal makes YOU the controller, putting you in the middle of the action and in complete control. Jump and your Avatar jumps. Speak and characters respond. Combined with Xbox Live, Project Natal will transform how you connect with your friends, family and entertainment - as only Xbox 360 can do."



Yeah because limiting games by what a camera can do is totally gaming's future, am I the only one getting increasingly annoyed at how stupid and arrogant Microsofts PR is?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 12, 2010, 12:58:04 PM
Well, I don't know about anyone else, but if I were in to hunting games, I'm need something in my hands, I don't normal hunt deer with thin air, nor do I drive a car without touching something, even if it's just the wheel touching my knee. Will it pick that up?

I could see it being very cool for activities that normally don't involve some sort of peripheral, like miming.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 12, 2010, 01:09:11 PM
... miming.

I think Racer just stumbled upon Natal's best selling game.

Super Miming Adventure   :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 13, 2010, 05:27:59 AM
Call of Duty: World of Mimes
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on March 13, 2010, 09:49:16 AM
Mimes Of War 3     ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 17, 2010, 06:02:55 AM
Bleszinski favours Natal-like motion controls
Gears of War dev hopes to see hybrid games that use both motion and button controls

Epic's Cliff Bleszinski has said he finds motion controllers "very interesting" but favours those like Natal which don't rely on any hand-held controller.

"I find motion control to be very interesting, very compelling," he told IGN. "The ones that I personally like the most are the ones that are more natal-like; that don't have yet another plastic controller sitting underneath my coffee table cluttering everything up. That I can just fire it up and do very cool movements and have interesting results."

He continued: "As a side note, the kind of game that I think will be the most interesting will be something that's a hybrid."

"Maybe it's something where I'm playing the game with a controller and your significant other can sit there on the sofa and do gesture based things... So that you bring the hardcore and the casual together in a compelling fashion."
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 17, 2010, 10:44:28 AM
Bleszinski favours Natal-like motion controls
Gears of War dev hopes to see hybrid games that use both motion and button controls

Epic's Cliff Bleszinski has said he finds motion controllers "very interesting" but favours those like Natal which don't rely on any hand-held controller.

"I find motion control to be very interesting, very compelling," he told IGN. "The ones that I personally like the most are the ones that are more natal-like; that don't have yet another plastic controller sitting underneath my coffee table cluttering everything up. That I can just fire it up and do very cool movements and have interesting results."

He continued: "As a side note, the kind of game that I think will be the most interesting will be something that's a hybrid."

"Maybe it's something where I'm playing the game with a controller and your significant other can sit there on the sofa and do gesture based things... So that you bring the hardcore and the casual together in a compelling fashion."

That'd be cool, especially a sex based game ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 17, 2010, 10:47:17 AM
Bleszinski favours Natal-like motion controls
Gears of War dev hopes to see hybrid games that use both motion and button controls

Epic's Cliff Bleszinski has said he finds motion controllers "very interesting" but favours those like Natal which don't rely on any hand-held controller.

"I find motion control to be very interesting, very compelling," he told IGN. "The ones that I personally like the most are the ones that are more natal-like; that don't have yet another plastic controller sitting underneath my coffee table cluttering everything up. That I can just fire it up and do very cool movements and have interesting results."

He continued: "As a side note, the kind of game that I think will be the most interesting will be something that's a hybrid."

"Maybe it's something where I'm playing the game with a controller and your significant other can sit there on the sofa and do gesture based things... So that you bring the hardcore and the casual together in a compelling fashion."

That'd be cool, especially a sex based game ;D

Ahhh yes lads now we're talking, there should be a porno game on the xbox!

Just imagine the cheevos. Shot your load 10 times - 10G's
Hit the money shot 5 times - 30g's
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 17, 2010, 10:47:20 AM
Just had a thought, considering this new 'news' on an idea for a game where 'I' would have the controller and my wife could sit beside me making all sorts of gestures, they should come out with some sort of 'vacation' game and to allow people to interact with their nagging partners/back seat drivers.

It could be theorapy in the making!  Getting a visual on your actual behavior, the possibilities are endless!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 18, 2010, 06:46:49 AM

Ahhh yes lads now we're talking, there should be a porno game on the xbox!

Just imagine the cheevos. Shot your load 10 times - 10G's
Hit the money shot 5 times - 30g's


ATM Achieved - 50G
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 05:49:12 AM

Ahhh yes lads now we're talking, there should be a porno game on the xbox!

Just imagine the cheevos. Shot your load 10 times - 10G's
Hit the money shot 5 times - 30g's


ATM Achieved - 50G

ATM - Cash machine, or do you mean Ass to mouth?  :o

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 19, 2010, 06:02:19 AM
what does ATM stand for Actual Teller Machine?? i can't remember.

Actual Teller Machine Acquired - 50G ... it's obviously this one!!!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 06:05:05 AM
Ass to mouth was better  ;)

Accidentally crossed swords in a threesome - 0g's
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: RedMaster11 on March 19, 2010, 06:05:49 AM
Automated Teller Machine - a well known sexual innuendo.  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 19, 2010, 06:07:35 AM
Ass to mouth was better  ;)

Accidentally crossed swords in a threesome - 0g's

I'm sure you had no chance crossing swords with 2 other guys :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 06:12:16 AM
Ass to mouth was better  ;)

Accidentally crossed swords in a threesome - 0g's

I'm sure you had no chance crossing swords with 2 other guys :P

In real life! never frakking happening! i'd have to rub my cock clean with sandpaper! oh it burns  :(
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: RedMaster11 on March 19, 2010, 06:13:21 AM
Ass to mouth was better  ;)

Accidentally crossed swords in a threesome - 0g's

I'm sure you had no chance crossing swords with 2 other guys :P

In real life! never frakking happening! i'd have to rub my cock clean with sandpaper! oh it burns  :(

That's my hopes dashed.  :(
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 06:17:16 AM
LOL! dude...... only if you wear a dress  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 19, 2010, 06:22:47 AM

That's my hopes dashed.  :(


he's just being mean to keep you keen ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 06:23:48 AM

That's my hopes dashed.  :(


he's just being mean to keep you keen ;)

Yeah you stupid bitch!  :-*
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: RedMaster11 on March 19, 2010, 06:32:12 AM

That's my hopes dashed.  :(


he's just being mean to keep you keen ;)

Yeah you stupid bitch!  :-*

God I love it when you're masterful.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 06:36:33 AM
Gonna put you in that gimp suit later  :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 19, 2010, 11:48:31 AM
I have an overwhelming suspicion that Rex types with one hand.   :-\

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 19, 2010, 11:49:25 AM
LOL, you're not the only one  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
I type with my toes as my hands are otherwise engaged  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 19, 2010, 03:32:40 PM
One finger, one thumb, one stuck up your bum, keep typing  :-X
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 19, 2010, 05:44:45 PM
Chocolate fingers anyone?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 20, 2010, 05:06:26 AM
wow :o I had to go back a few pages to see how you all got to this :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 20, 2010, 06:39:17 AM
wow :o I had to go back a few pages to see how you all got to this :D

wow it took a couple of page, we're getting slower at this.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 20, 2010, 07:16:08 AM
wow :o I had to go back a few pages to see how you all got to this :D

wow it took a couple of page, we're getting slower at this.

Pull your finger out failed, or do I mean thumb?  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on March 20, 2010, 07:37:53 AM
Just to drag this back on topic...

Article on the amount of physical space Natal requires:

..."an area extending at least 4 meters (a little more than 13 feet) away from the television. That's the back edge of the space to be taken into account by the Natal sensors. In terms of width and height, the field of vision naturally expands as it moves from the Natal device to that back edge, ending up a little more than 4 meters wide and 2.7 meters high"...

<<Source>> (http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/03/notes_on_project_natal.html)

I dont have a lounge (or bedroom) big enough to provide this type of space but maybe some people do... :-\
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 20, 2010, 08:27:04 AM
i think it means it can recognise up to 4 meters away, obviously you'll stand about half that away.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 25, 2010, 06:36:19 AM
Milo's days are numbered and i'm very happy about it (http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2009/10/have-you-seen-this-boy-milo-580px.jpg)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 25, 2010, 06:44:46 AM
Milo rocks :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 25, 2010, 06:50:59 AM
Milo rocks :D

Milo's fucked  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 25, 2010, 06:57:47 AM
Milo rocks :D

Milo's fucked  ;D

I have a Westie called Milo  :)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 25, 2010, 07:00:17 AM
Milo rocks :D

Milo's fucked  ;D

I have a Westie called Milo  :)

Is he as irritating and annoying as the Milo that Hype King Peter Molyneux concocted? if not, then your Milo is safe  :)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 25, 2010, 07:04:58 AM
Even worse.... he's an over excited over hyper little shitbag!

Although it was proper funny the other day my mum was sleep and he went and pee'd in her slippers!  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 25, 2010, 07:06:29 AM
Even worse.... he's an over excited over hyper little shitbag!

Although it was proper funny the other day my mum was sleep and he went and pee'd in her slippers!  ;D

Nice one, but he's real & not some crappy dev technology that people think is the future of gaming, thats the main thing  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 25, 2010, 07:08:06 AM
he's not real, Rex made him up to get away with peeing in his mums slippers.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 25, 2010, 07:10:16 AM
he's not real, Rex made him up to get away with peeing in his mums slippers.

lol no he's real, and I also have another Tyler, he's a rottweiler  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 25, 2010, 07:16:19 AM
he's not real, Rex made him up to get away with peeing in his mums slippers.

lol no he's real, and I also have another Tyler, he's a rottweiler  ;)
Oh really and what did he do r*pe some old granny no doubt ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 25, 2010, 07:28:04 AM
he's not real, Rex made him up to get away with peeing in his mums slippers.

lol no he's real, and I also have another Tyler, he's a rottweiler  ;)
Oh really and what die he do r*pe some old granny no doubt ;)

lol no granny r*pe is to easy
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 25, 2010, 07:54:47 AM
grannies are too easy, trying to r*pe a rhino ... now that's a challenge
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 25, 2010, 10:24:04 AM
Milo (smokes) rocks :D

(http://mos.futurenet.com/techradar/classifications/images/xbox-natal-milo-face-420-90.jpg)

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 25, 2010, 10:24:36 AM
grannies are too easy, trying to r*pe a rhino ... now that's a challenge

The reason why you can't r*pe a Rhino is because your wang isn't big enough... stick to chickens failed  ;) ;D  :-*

or me  :-[ :-*
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 25, 2010, 11:17:13 AM
i said it was a challenge, i never said i Failed .... twas just a tight fit for me, unlike you which is like throwing a cocktail stick down a well :P :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 25, 2010, 12:11:11 PM
i said it was a challenge, i never said i Failed .... twas just a tight fit for me, unlike you which is like throwing a cocktail stick down a well :P :P

I prefer pencil dick  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 25, 2010, 12:12:47 PM
i said it was a challenge, i never said i Failed .... twas just a tight fit for me, unlike you which is like throwing a cocktail stick down a well :P :P

I prefer pencil dick  ;D

sounds sketchy ,... mwa ha ha!! taht woz orfuL
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 26, 2010, 05:43:19 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 26, 2010, 05:45:50 AM
never so widely will the death of a child be celebrated  :-\
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 26, 2010, 06:45:12 AM
never so widely will the death of a child be celebrated  :-\

I still want a Milo he is cute
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 26, 2010, 06:47:25 AM
never so widely will the death of a child be celebrated  :-\

I still want a Milo he is cute

Well if the reports are true, decomp will have started now so you better get him quick before he rots away completely.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 26, 2010, 07:37:13 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 26, 2010, 07:39:58 AM
He looks like he's having so much fun :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 26, 2010, 07:41:17 AM
He looks like he's having so much fun :D

As a professional i can categorically say that he is a LUNATIC :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on March 26, 2010, 07:56:02 AM
He looks like he's having so much fun :D

As a professional i can categorically say that he is a LUNATIC :P

Still he looks so happy. Lunatics have it made :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 26, 2010, 08:13:48 AM
don't you just eh? Tara :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 26, 2010, 09:31:18 AM
He looks like he's having so much fun :D

As a professional i can categorically say that he is a LUNATIC :P

Still he looks so happy. Lunatics have it made :P

I noticed it always seems like you're in a chipper mood too  :-*
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 29, 2010, 06:29:18 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 29, 2010, 06:53:56 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 29, 2010, 06:57:12 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 29, 2010, 06:58:35 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: CRracer_912 on March 29, 2010, 10:01:28 AM
you just don;t stirke me as being real mean
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 29, 2010, 10:11:38 AM
you just don;t stirke me as being real mean

grrr was supposed to write men lol  :-[
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on March 29, 2010, 03:15:39 PM
us real mean always use a joystick ... pads are for girls, like the iPad (see other hilariass post)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on March 30, 2010, 03:45:58 AM
us real mean always use a joystick ... pads are for girls, like the iPad (see other hilariass post)


lol Ipad, it's more like a super cool Sanitary Towel  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on April 12, 2010, 01:08:50 PM
New Natal Vid (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lasextanoticias.com%2Fvideos%2Fver%2Faterriza_project_natal%2F247741&sl=es&tl=en)

The video is in Spanish and as I am fluent in said language, i'll translate it if you wish.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on April 12, 2010, 01:21:14 PM
New Natal Vid (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lasextanoticias.com%2Fvideos%2Fver%2Faterriza_project_natal%2F247741&sl=es&tl=en)

The video is in Spanish and as I am fluent in said language, i'll translate it if you wish.

The link didn't work for me.   :(  So I found the direct link.   :)

Link to video (http://www.lasextanoticias.com/videos/ver/aterriza_project_natal/247741)

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on April 21, 2010, 05:10:29 AM
Natal developer kit instructions leak

Photographs of the Project Natal development kit have apparently leaked onto the internet along with handling and installation instructions.

The latter perhaps offer the most insight, explaining: "The sensor array includes a new motorised tilt mechanism. Do not manually tilt the sensor array on its base. Doing so can damage the tilt mechanism."

Apparently the pre-release version also required its own power source. In a diagram accompanying the above warning, a cable is shown emerging from the Natal camera unit and connecting to another cable which then splits - one end going to the Xbox 360 and another to a plug socket.

The setup instructions also alluded to installing "the latest XDK software" - XDK is the name of the software development kit for Xbox 360.

Pics (http://multiplayer.it/immagini/project-natal-per-x360/309715/)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on April 28, 2010, 04:37:38 AM
Ballmer: Natal "most exciting" MS product

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has described Project Natal as the "most exciting product" his company will release all year.

"Perhaps for me the most exciting product we'll bring to market this year, and it really fits in this context, actually comes out of our videogaming group," he told a meeting of executives in Columbia this week, as reported by ZDNet.com (thanks VG247).

"You might say, why would I talk to a group of CEOs about videogames? Because the technology actually is very general purpose, and we'll see come into the rest of our lives pretty soon... It's a technology that we call Natal."

Ballmer said that the advantage of Natal was that "you don't go get some remote control or big fat gaming thing", you "just gesture, and the computer recognises your voice, it recognises your gestures."

He seemed very excited about it, particularly applications beyond gaming. "And if you think about that in a lot of settings, why am I carrying this thing?" he said rhetorically. "I've already forgotten three times where I set it down. I should just be able to go like this, and the camera should recognise that gesture and control the slides for me, and let these kinds of things freely happen."

Microsoft has previously said to expect Natal to learn from your actions in future, possibly judging your sports affiliation by the colour of your "jersey", or shopping you to the feds for breaching the terms of your parole.

Project Natal is due to launch for Xbox 360 this autumn, and Microsoft is set to demonstrate it for the first time in nearly a year at E3 in June. The company is holding a World Premier Project Natal for Xbox 360 Experience event on 13th June, and will elaborate on its plans at its annual E3 conference the next day. We've already been told to expect the add-on's full line-up of software there too.

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on April 29, 2010, 02:11:51 PM
i'm still looking forward to this!!
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on April 29, 2010, 02:22:47 PM
i'm still looking forward to this!!

I'm still not  ;D

I'll pick it up cheap a few weeks after it completely bombs, so just before Christmas, and then, like the majority of my 360 stuff, I won't use it.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on May 05, 2010, 09:19:30 AM
i'm still looking forward to this!!
Me too

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on May 05, 2010, 12:51:02 PM
As the guy off KOXM says the best thing will be navigating the dashboard in a Minority Report stylee or with a voice command...[Y]
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 05, 2010, 03:42:23 PM
As the guy off KOXM says the best thing will be navigating the dashboard in a Minority Report stylee or with a voice command...[Y]

Thats also what I keep saying, everyone here already knows my stance on motion control gaming so I won't bother saying it again.  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 11, 2010, 04:36:23 AM
Project Natal "definitely" in October

Microsoft's marketing manager for Entertainment & Devices in Saudi Arabia has said that Project Natal will "definitely" launch in October 2010.

"I do have great news to share with everybody - that Project Natal will be launched in Saudi Arabia on the [inaudible] that it will be launched in the world - that is going to be somewhere in October," Syed Bilal Tariq said in an interview clip captured by GamertagRadio.

"We will be in a position to confirm the date after E3, which is in June. But definitely, it is going to be October 2010."

Microsoft has everyone involved in Project Natal on lockdown until next month's industry showcase, when it plans to introduce updated Natal hardware and software to the press on Sunday 13th June.

The platform holder will then make its customary annual announcements on Monday 14th June at a press conference in Los Angeles.

The company has previously said to expect its "full line-up" at E3, including a range of third-party titles. Third parties Eurogamer has spoken to about their software claim to be sworn to secrecy until E3.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on May 12, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
Microsoft's marketing manager for Entertainment & Devices in Saudi Arabia has said that Project Natal will "definitely" launch in October 2010.

The guy is an idiot (http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/704606/Microsoft-Says-Project-Natal-Release-Date-Leaker-Isnt-A-Microsoft-Employee.html).

If Natal does release in October, it will be nothing more than coincidence.  This guy knows nothing.

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 12, 2010, 03:25:24 PM
My mate's sister's boyfriend's uncle overheard a conversation between two random guys on a train in London, they were saying that Natal has been cancelled in favour of a Sony buyout, as that is top priority at Microsoft, you heard it here first.   ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on May 12, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
lol

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 14, 2010, 08:30:30 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on May 14, 2010, 11:47:46 AM
are we expecting the official name to be announced at E3?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: sambo on May 14, 2010, 12:42:07 PM
are we expecting the official name to be announced at E3?

 I think so. E3 Should tell us the true power of Natal and what ships with it.l
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 14, 2010, 01:09:07 PM
are we expecting the official name to be announced at E3?

 I think so. E3 Should tell us the true power of Natal and what ships with it.l

It'll be where MS confirm that Natal is just this.......

(http://analogik.com/_images/pic_eyetoy_camera.jpg)

with this on it

(http://www.activewin.com/faq/xbox360images/xbox360_logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: sambo on May 14, 2010, 01:18:16 PM
Pretty much, spot on.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on May 15, 2010, 06:59:08 AM
Have they ever mentioned how much this will cost?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 15, 2010, 09:14:52 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on May 16, 2010, 09:08:59 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 16, 2010, 09:44:34 AM
I've no interest in the games side of it and probably never will, quite like the Minority Report style dashboard controls but i'm not paying money just for that, might pick it up after it fails miserably and is on sale at 75% off RRP, the week after release should do it.   ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Jaynestown on May 16, 2010, 11:30:40 AM
You're such a pessimist. Give it two weeks!  ;)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 16, 2010, 12:43:48 PM
You're such a pessimist. Give it two weeks!  ;)

 :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on May 16, 2010, 03:25:03 PM
what if it's cheap and has super easy achieves, Punch Milo - 200G
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on May 17, 2010, 03:34:08 AM
what if it's cheap and has super easy achieves, Punch Milo - 200G

Score Whore for life!  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on May 19, 2010, 04:28:50 AM
i'm getting it cos i think my daughter will really enjoy the games like the painting one and the bat a ball one, plus i want a milo, plus i want to pretend i am in minority report  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 26, 2010, 06:07:35 AM
i'm getting it cos i think my daughter will really enjoy the games like the painting one and the bat a ball one, plus i want a milo, plus i want to pretend i am in minority report  ;D

You could just hide in a closet shouting "I don't want to come out", thats a far better Tom Cruise impression.   ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 26, 2010, 06:09:13 AM
Microsoft: Natal will 'jumpstart the 360'
Outgoing boss Robbie Bach describes Natal as a console alternative

Natal presents an opportunity to revitalise the Xbox 360 without having to put out a new console according to Microsoft's Robbie Bach.

The outgoing head of E&D said that he saw as Project Natal as a "midlife kicker" to the console.

He told Tech Flash, "If you think we have, what, close to 40 million consoles in the world, and every one of those consoles can work with Natal."

"So, there's a tremendous opportunity from a business perspective to produce a new experience for people without shipping a new console."

"For me it's a jumpstart catalyst," he continued. "It's a midlife kicker for the 360, and it's an opportunity to really drive that business in a dramatic way."

Both Microsoft's Project Natal and Sony's PlayStation Move are set to have a big impact on the games industry, with Ubisoft describing both devices as 'revolutionary' earlier this month.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 26, 2010, 01:05:17 PM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on May 26, 2010, 05:09:12 PM
my money's safe
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on May 26, 2010, 05:27:52 PM
a reasonable price if you ask me, me my wife and kid will have loads of fun with it. in fact am getting one in time for xmas.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on May 26, 2010, 05:42:11 PM
my wife and kid will have loads of fun with it. in fact am getting one in time for xmas.

which are you getting first the wife or the kid.... lol >_<
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on May 26, 2010, 06:12:23 PM
my wife and kid will have loads of fun with it. in fact am getting one in time for xmas.

which are you getting first the wife or the kid.... lol >_<

 :D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on May 27, 2010, 02:08:37 AM
my wife and kid will have loads of fun with it. in fact am getting one in time for xmas.

which are you getting first the wife or the kid.... lol >_<

 :D


Must be going to Thailand on tour again?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 27, 2010, 07:57:46 AM
Ex-Microsoft Studio Boss: 'Natal Will Fail'

Scot Bayless, a former studio manager at Microsoft, thinks Project Natal will 'fail'

Bayless was a Senior Producer at Sega of America when the 32X peripheral launched for the Mega Drive/Genesis, and thinks a similar fate could befall Microsoft's upcoming add-on. "When I met with Microsoft in 2008 to look at Natal I asked: 'When will you integrate this into the 360?'" Bayless said in the latest issue of Retro Gamer. "Their response was: 'We're probably going to wait and see on that.' To which I said: Then you're going to fail.'"

The games industry veteran, who has also held executive roles at EA, Midway and Capcom, believes the peripheral will split consumers, putting off developers. "Plays like this always fragment and the disincentive to developers is powerful; when I'm spending tens of millions on a game, the last thing I want to do is lose 90 per cent of my market."

Project Natal pricing rumours are currently doing the rounds online.


He must have been reading my posts on here  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on May 27, 2010, 08:49:13 PM
'course it will split the market, i won't buy one and the fuzz will. SPLIT
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on May 27, 2010, 09:09:40 PM
'course it will split the market, i won't buy one and the fuzz will. SPLIT

i'm gonna buy two to make up for you not buying one  :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on May 28, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
'course it will split the market, i won't buy one and the fuzz will. SPLIT

i'm gonna buy two to make up for you not buying one  :P

lmao

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on May 28, 2010, 01:25:32 PM
'course it will split the market, i won't buy one and the fuzz will. SPLIT

i'm gonna buy two to make up for you not buying one  :P

you'll make the world stop spinning by ruining the balance of natal sales.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on May 29, 2010, 02:58:30 AM
'course it will split the market, i won't buy one and the fuzz will. SPLIT

i'm gonna buy two to make up for you not buying one  :P

lmao



Don't you mean your wife will?
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on May 29, 2010, 04:55:48 AM
'course it will split the market, i won't buy one and the fuzz will. SPLIT

i'm gonna buy two to make up for you not buying one  :P

lmao



Don't you mean your wife will?

Know i mean I will. She pays me for 'services' rendered. I don't earn much though  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 30, 2010, 06:52:59 AM
Natal to be renamed Wave, says report

Forget Project Natal - Microsoft's new motion-sensing camera will have a new name by the time it's released.

And that name will be Wave, according to NowGamer (http://xbox-360.nowgamer.com/news/3284/natal-to-be-christened-wave-at-e3). The website says the information comes from "a source close to Microsoft".

There's no way of telling whether it's true, of course, and Microsoft is less likely to comment on rumour and speculation than it is to start making PS3 games.

Looks like all the surprises could be spoiled before E3 even starts, if this and this week's story about Natal costing a hundred quid turn out to be true.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on May 30, 2010, 06:58:13 AM
WAVE...that's shite.

Should've stuck with Natal
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on May 30, 2010, 07:31:21 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on May 30, 2010, 11:36:22 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on May 30, 2010, 01:15:17 PM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 01, 2010, 07:30:06 PM
How Natal In 2010 Is Similar To PS3 In 2006

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9274/psnatal.jpg)

History is a funny thing. It can repeat itself, look as if it's about to repeat itself (but never does) and even resemble past icons in both positives and negatives. Lately, there has been much talk about Microsoft's Project Natal. This sudden spark of interest was ignited with the piping-hot rumor about Natal costing upwards of $150 at retailers when it launches. Since then, there has been no official word from Microsoft neither confirming nor denying these rumors. The absence of any debunking has led to even more articles discussing the possible success or failure of Project Natal. To us, this seems all too reminiscent of a time when Sony was to launch the PlayStation 3. Here are some similarities that struck us the most.

The Extension of Your Body - Back in E3 2006, then-corporate executive and representative director Phil Harrison showed the public the functionality of the PS3's SIXAXIS controller. The whole idea of the device was meant to give the player a bigger sense of interactivity with games as if it were an extension of your body. Fast forward to what we see today with Project Natal and the idea is pretty much the same. Clearly, this could be said about any other motion controller today, but these two in particular are missing something that the other "immersive experiences" do have, which can give the player a deeper sense of interactivity to go along with motion control. Vibration.

Game Development Challenges - We think Project Natal is a motion detection device that, if worked on correctly, can sport some exclusive games that will never be available for the PlayStation Move or Nintendo Wii, simply because of the way you interact with things. However, this also poses a challenge for multiplatform games meant for all three motion platforms. How will a shooter work with Natal? How will a third-person action/adventure game work with Natal? How will a twin-stick shooter work with Natal? The ambitious decision to not include any buttons can only go so far. Going back to the PlayStation 3's early years, the fact that the console was "too hard to develop for" was always mentioned by developers. Natal's analog stick for character movement is your feet, but there's no way developers will be sending you on trips doing circles in your living room, will they? This leads us to believe that exclusive or 1st party titles are what Microsoft is going to have to focus on. So far, we've seen more of the Ricochet game than we would like to admit. It looks like tons of fun, but is this the type of game Natal will be limited to?

Fake Demonstrations? - Videos, articles and internet forums erupted with gossip after the introduction of Project Natal's "Milo" demonstration, where the gamer basically talks and interacts with a young boy. With a bit of simple Google searching, you can find tons of YouTube videos actually attempting to debunk the Milo demo, calling it fake. We haven't seen much on Milo since last summer, but it seems as if some who have tried the Milo demo agreed with the "smoke and mirrors" effects presented in the game. On the PS3 front, we go back to E3 2005 (most of you probably already know what we're talking about) and the infamous Killzone 2 CGI Trailer. As gorgeous as it was, it wasn't the actual game despite people in the crowd thinking it was. From that day up until E3 2007, everyone was skeptical about whether the game will meet the target and impress. That year's E3 brought a trailer showing actual footage of Killzone 2. Some were very impressed at the similarities, while others still couldn't take their minds off of the 2005 trailer.

Potential - There was an ongoing phrase said by the PlayStation fanboys of the PS3's launch years stating that the system "has potential". It's powerful, but we'll just have to wait and see if it can meet the potential that everyone keeps talking about. It wasn't until major titles like Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (with the exception of Uncharted: Drake's Fortune and Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction before it) that the "potential" gag finally wore off. To many in the industry, the PS3 finally proved itself with Kojima's title as the first title to reach heights that other systems probably wouldn't be able to reach (even receiving perfect scores from IGN and Famitsu). Natal is also starting to get the phrase under its wing, with the occasional articles predicting its true success based on its uniqueness. We're excited to see what games will come to the platform when Natal gets its right developer. Perhaps it too will find the one game that tosses out the "potential" gag.

Pricey Prices - The one complaint that haunted the PlayStation 3 since before it was even released to the public has been the price. $600 is a price point that is not only double what it is now, but is also a price point that has never worked for any gaming product ever. Systems that failed miserably such as the Neo Geo have been stamped with the $600 price tag in the past, while systems like the 3DO were sold for even more than that and also failed to make a big mark in the industry, selling over 2,000,000 units in its lifetime. While it is safe to say the PS3 has been the most successful console to ever be marked with that high of a price tag, it still didn't fare well against cheaper consoles like the Nintendo Wii and Xbox 360. It wasn't until its price drop in August 2009 that sales started exceeding expectations. Today, Sony sits there with a $300 price tag and consistent sales, even occasionally outselling the Wii in their home country during some weeks. Natal, although it is still a rumor, is getting very mixed predictions in the industry on what the impact will be like. Everyone is expecting a $150 price tag for Natal. Whether it will include a free game is still unknown at this point, but the backlash concerning the price of the platform is one we are remembering far too easily. Still, it's impossible to know at the moment whether Natal can last or not, which is why we've never released an article concerning the platform's possible success or failure. Perhaps all will be revealed by this year's E3, which is a mere two weeks away.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 11, 2010, 05:43:06 AM
Natal and Move purchase intent 'low'
Only 15 per cent of gamers currently aware of new motion controllers, study finds

Only 15 per cent of the Xbox 360 and PS3 markets are currently aware of upcoming motion controllers Natal and Move, according to research firm OTX.

Having polled 2,000 gamers between May 23 and June 5, the company found that just eight per cent of the Xbox 360 market currently intends to buy Natal, while only six per cent of the PS3 market intends to pick up Move.

The low awareness and purchase intent figures can probably be explained by the lack of solid information currently available about the devices. Despite being announced a year ago we still don't know their (official) prices, release dates or launch titles, although E3 should fix that next week.

The study (via Gamasutra) also found that the average age of consumers planning to buy Natal is 25, versus to 28 for Move, and that 30 per cent of those intending to purchase Move are female, compared to 20 per cent for Natal.

Those planning to buy the motion controllers are most interested in the following games.

Natal
1. Gears of War 3 - X360 (47%)
2. Fable III - X360 (42%)
3. Call of Duty: Black Ops - X360 (38%)
4. Halo: Reach - X360 (34%)
5. Dead Space 2 - X360 (26%)

Move
1. LittleBigPlanet 2 - PS3 (42%)
2. Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 (32%)
3. SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs - PS3 (30%)
4. The Legend of Zelda 2 - Wii (26%)
5. Super Mario Galaxy 2 - Wii (21%)

"While we are still months away from launch, the current data suggests that Natal gamers are definitely Xbox 360 purists, while Move gamers have a stronger interest in other platforms," OTX said.
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 11, 2010, 06:12:29 AM
Microsoft files for gesture patents: Project Natal + Minority Report

Just ahead of next week's public unveiling of its Project Natal motion control system for the Xbox 360, Microsoft has filed for several patents covering technology for controlling PCs and game systems with gestures and motion tracking.

The patent applications reiterate that Microsoft's work on gesture input systems predate Natal and go far beyond the game console. They also makes it clear that this technology is no longer the realm of science fiction as in the movie "Minority Report."

(http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/assets_c/2010/06/gesture%20system3-thumb-400x306-14944.jpg)

The applications don't mention Natal specifically but describe related technology for controlling systems with depth-sensing cameras and voice commands that serve as interfaces to control computers with large visual displays.

They describe a system that could also use a wireless sensor along with the 3-D sensors and voice control.

"MSR [Microsoft Research] has been working on this for a long, long time,'' said Andy Wilson, a Microsoft researcher named on the applications. "Now that the buzz has been turned up a couple notches around Natal, it's good to keep in mind that we've been doing this stuff for a long time."

Blogger Manan Kakkar called out the application for a PC control system that was published today.

When I looked into it, I found a related application for a "system and method for executing a game process" published June 3. It involves "a 3-D imaging system for recognition and interpretation of gestures to control a computer. The system includes a 3-D imaging system that performs gesture recognition and interpretation based on a previous mapping of a plurality of hand poses and orientations to user commands for a given user."

Natal captures all sorts of motion by tracking players' skeletons and overlaying voice commands. It also draws on the vast library of research Microsoft has done over the years.

The patent applications describe a standard set of gestures that can be combined with voice control and the use of a remote sensing device. It also hints at what could be one of the challenges with Natal -- remembering particular control gestures, and the complexity of recognizing and processing such inputs.

The computer application is for a "perceptual user interface" architecture that "comprises alternative modalities for controlling computer application programs and manipulating on-screen objects through hand gestures or a combination of hand gestures and verbal commands. The perceptual user interface system includes a tracking component that detects object characteristics of at least one of a plurality of objects within a scene, and tracks the respective object."

From the application:

    "A small set of very simple gestures can offer significant bits of functionality where they are needed most. For example, dismissing a notification window can be accomplished by a quick gesture to the one side or the other, as in shooing a fly. Another example is gestures for 'next' and 'back' functionality found in web browsers, presentation programs (e.g., PowerPoint) and other applications.

    Note that in many cases the surface forms of these various gestures can remain the same throughout these examples, while the semantics of the gestures depends on the application at hand. Providing a small set of standard gestures eases problems users have in recalling how gestures are performed, and also allows for simpler and more robust signal processing and recognition processes."

A few images from the applications:

(http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/assets_c/2010/06/gestures-thumb-600x449-14940.jpg)

(http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/assets_c/2010/06/gesture%20flow-thumb-600x464-14942.jpg)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 11, 2010, 08:05:44 AM
Two More Natal Games Revealed, At Least Twelve More To Come

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/06/500x_natal_01.jpg)

Ahead of next week's E3 in Los Angeles, two new titles for Microsoft's motion-control peripheral, Project Natal, have been revealed.

Those hoping for a wave-your-arms version of Halo or Fable are out of luck, though, as the two games are simple party titles (ie glorifed tech demos), similar to the kind we've seen for the system so far.

One is Living Statue, which according to a piece on the LA Times "lets players record their avatars dancing and singing karaoke-style, then e-mail the video masterpiece to their friends".

The second is Obstacle Course, in which "players pull, dodge and jump their way through a series of levels resembling what you would find at summer camp, sans the mosquitoes."

Of more interest to those hanging out for proper games is the final line of the report, which says "there will be about a dozen more Natal-licensed titles from other game developers unveiled Monday and Tuesday". A dozen games from companies that aren't Microsoft? Add those to the titles Microsoft itself will have ready and that's quite a launch lineup. Hopefully not all of them involve jumping around like a maniac (http://kotaku.com/5556916/playing-project-natal-sure-is-embarrassing).
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 11, 2010, 08:11:02 AM
BEWARE: FALLING SHOVELWARE AHEAD
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 11, 2010, 09:42:06 AM
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 11, 2010, 10:05:45 AM
i wonder if she's legal :P
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 11, 2010, 10:08:37 AM
i wonder if she's legal :P

She is over here, not in America  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 11, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
(http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/assets_c/2010/06/gesture%20system3-thumb-400x306-14944.jpg)

(http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/assets_c/2010/06/gestures-thumb-600x449-14940.jpg)

I don't know why, but I am laughing so hard looking at those pictures.   :D :D :D

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 11, 2010, 11:24:48 AM
(http://ctrlaltkill.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/icarlyjenn.jpg)

i wonder if she's legal :P

She is over here, not in America  ;D

It hasn't stopped Shakes.  Just ask the girl from LazyTown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LazyTown)

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/savage_star_eyez/aniStephanie-FuckYeah.gif)






ps.  Fun Fact # 34:  An unfiltered image search for "LazyTown" is guaranteed to disgust and/or arouse you.

Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 11, 2010, 11:42:52 AM
she's definately 18 now though, f*ck yeah
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 11, 2010, 11:44:26 AM
she's definately 18 now though, f*ck yeah

18 in two weeks apparently
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: Astrex on June 14, 2010, 03:33:29 AM
she's definately 18 now though, f*ck yeah

18 in two weeks apparently

By the time it makes it to court she'll be 18 though so ... f*ck yeah!  ;D
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 14, 2010, 04:13:11 AM
Official: Natal is called Kinect

Microsoft has confirmed that Project Natal is called Kinect.

The controller-free camera peripheral still has no price or release date, but following Sunday's "premiere" event at the Galen Center in Los Angeles we also know what a number of its games will look like.

Software shown at the event included racing title Joy Ride (originally announced as a microtransaction-driven Xbox Live Arcade title a year ago), Kinectimals (a pet game), Kinect Sports (Boxing! Bowling! Table tennis!), Kinect Adventures (including the river rafting game that's been seen), Dance Central (developed by MTV Games), and Star Wars and Disney titles.

The showcase, which featured a super-expensive elephant and meteor-inspired Cirque de Soleil performance as its centrepiece and involved dressing up, also revealed that there will be a gesture-based "Video Chat" application.

Earlier in the day we heard via an Italian web advert that Microsoft also plans to announce a slim Xbox 360 with a 250GB hard disk with built-in Wi-Fi. That remains unconfirmed, but was a pretty good bet anyway after motherboard images leaked in March.

Microsoft is expected to announce that, plus pricing and release dates for Natal - sorry, Kinect - at its official press conference today, 14th June. That kicks off at 10.30am PST / 6.30pm BST and you can catch it all live on Eurogamer.

We'll also be getting our hands on Kinect immediately after the premiere, so you won't have to wait too long for impressions. We thought we'd send the blacksmith of the future along to make sure it all works out from a technical perspective, too. Watch out, Kudo!

(http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/1/3/4/7/7/1/a_med_115292363.jpg.jpg)

Report on the unveiling (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/microsoft-shows-off-kinect-at-e3-event)
Title: Re: Natal Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 14, 2010, 04:17:42 AM
I'll change the thread name to match the new crappy name  :)

Here's some pics!

(http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/1/3/5/0/3/2/ss_preview_product_003.jpg.jpg?slideshow=true)
(http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/1/3/5/0/3/2/ss_preview_product_005.jpg.jpg?slideshow=true)
(http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/1/3/5/0/3/2/ss_preview_product_001.jpg.jpg?slideshow=true)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 14, 2010, 04:21:10 AM
Kinect gets gesture-based Video Chat

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/xb360camera530a.jpg)

Microsoft's Kinect  unveiling pulled back the curtain on a new video chat program, aptly titled Video Chat. Here, gamers will be able to participate in face-to-face communication and even share photos -- remember Photo Party?

The program is entirely navigated through gestures. No price nor a launch date was revealed by Microsoft. We'll let you know when we find out.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 14, 2010, 04:27:00 AM
It's a lag fest (http://kotaku.com/5562557/see-kinects-games-in-action-courtesy-of-fake-families)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 14, 2010, 06:09:19 AM
what we need is video chat when playing Gears 3. We can have a little camera in the top rtight corner and when you kill someone or they kill you , the video box pops up with their smug chainsaw wielding face or them in tears when you pop from around a corner and shotgun them to pulp.

should put me in charge of ideas, i'm teh awesome.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: knikki91 on June 14, 2010, 07:24:15 AM
So motion controllers and a video camera?

Interesting

So if we take the average player of Uno with this camera thing then wont the likes of Gears be full of images of fat balding old block showing there bit s at you when you chain saw them?

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 14, 2010, 07:29:19 AM
yep ..... but i suppose you can have the option to turn it off, incase you've had dinner or something, don't want to chuck it back up.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 14, 2010, 11:13:43 AM
Here's the laggy gameplay video from the link I posted earlier, doesn't look very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cCPHn49n8o
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 14, 2010, 02:37:44 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 14, 2010, 02:42:20 PM
what are you supposed to throw when you lose and get angry ??
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 05:01:41 AM
what are you supposed to throw when you lose and get angry ??
Your weight around ;D

Well I still love it even though it now has a crappy name. PS2 had a similar name for a game call kenetics or something.

I will read all review's on it as some people are so negative and have taken an instant dislike to it anyway
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 05:07:19 AM
what are you supposed to throw when you lose and get angry ??
Your weight around ;D

Well I still love it even though it now has a crappy name. PS2 had a similar name for a game call kenetics or something.

I will read all review's on it as some people are so negative and have taken an instant dislike to it anyway

The games look awful, especially that Kinectimals crap, the Sports one is basically Wii Sports with prettier graphics, the Star Wars game didn't look too bad but they all still suffered from bad lag which they only have 5 months to fix, still no confirmed price yet.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 05:16:08 AM
I am sure it will be fixed in time. If not we will get a patch. It is like Wii sports but it looks more fun and energetic. I like games like that but I wouldn't want to play Gears or CoD on it. Kinect should be just used for silly games.
For me it's just an add on that I want so I don't need to ask the kids if I can use their Wii
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 15, 2010, 05:28:19 AM
what are you supposed to throw when you lose and get angry ??
Your weight around ;D

Well I still love it even though it now has a crappy name. PS2 had a similar name for a game call kenetics or something.

I will read all review's on it as some people are so negative and have taken an instant dislike to it anyway

The games look awful, especially that Kinectimals crap, the Sports one is basically Wii Sports with prettier graphics, the Star Wars game didn't look too bad but they all still suffered from bad lag which they only have 5 months to fix, still no confirmed price yet.

I love the name, kinectimals looks awesome, the sports one IS like wii sports with prettier graphics, which is also awesome. And the star wars one looks amazing. All the games look amazing. I am on the hype train baby with a one way ticket  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 05:31:43 AM
what are you supposed to throw when you lose and get angry ??
Your weight around ;D

Well I still love it even though it now has a crappy name. PS2 had a similar name for a game call kenetics or something.

I will read all review's on it as some people are so negative and have taken an instant dislike to it anyway

The games look awful, especially that Kinectimals crap, the Sports one is basically Wii Sports with prettier graphics, the Star Wars game didn't look too bad but they all still suffered from bad lag which they only have 5 months to fix, still no confirmed price yet.

I love the name, kinectimals looks awesome, the sports one IS like wii sports with prettier graphics, which is also awesome. And the star wars one looks amazing. All the games look amazing. I am on the hype train baby with a one way ticket  ;D

So it seems  :D

For me the hype train was blown up by terrorists, killing everyone on board, before it even took off on it's maiden voyage, the terrorists are still at large btw, they've begun preperations on Target Move now, Sony are fucked  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 05:37:01 AM
Hype Train lol
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 06:01:09 AM
Kinect needs separate plug on old 360's

Microsoft has revealed that Kinect will run on the newly redesigned Xbox 360 without a separate power supply.

Anyone using the motion sensor on older Xbox models, however, will have it plug it into the wall separately from the console.

Among the features listed on the back of the new 360's box is a "custom Kinect port". The "custom" part refers to the fact that the port not only connects the 360 to the Kinect camera bar, it provides all the power it needs too, while owners of existing models will need a separate power lead.

The new Xbox has plenty of other tweaks too, of course: it boasts 802.11n Wi-Fi built-in, has touch-sensitive buttons, a 250 GB HD, and is very, very quiet.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 06:12:26 AM
I am sure it will be fixed in time. If not we will get a patch. It is like Wii sports but it looks more fun and energetic. I like games like that but I wouldn't want to play Gears or CoD on it. Kinect should be just used for silly games.
For me it's just an add on that I want so I don't need to ask the kids if I can use their Wii

It will be fixed no doubt, one of the games shown looked pretty bad though, woman jumps, character on screen jumps around 2 seconds later, that's bad.  The Dance Central game looked spot on though.

My problem with Kinect is that the games shown don't appeal to the core audience that has loyally stuck by the platform over the last five years, obviously they are looking towards pulling in the casual gamer audience, as long as that doesn't halt progress on the kind of games that have made the console so bloody popular, Halo, Gears, COD etc. then i'm fine with it, yeah I said it.  Still not gonna get it though.   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 15, 2010, 06:38:03 AM
away from Kinect we have a lot of amazing games for the core gamer. Halo Reach, Gears 3, Black Ops, MGS: Rising, Fable 3 et al

can't say we aren't being catered for
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 06:39:13 AM
away from Kinect we have a lot of amazing games for the core gamer. Halo Reach, Gears 3, Black Ops, MGS: Rising, Fable 3 et al

can't say we aren't being catered for
Vey true
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 06:43:08 AM
away from Kinect we have a lot of amazing games for the core gamer. Halo Reach, Gears 3, Black Ops, MGS: Rising, Fable 3 et al

can't say we aren't being catered for

I didn't say we weren't, only one amazing game in that list too btw   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
away from Kinect we have a lot of amazing games for the core gamer. Halo Reach, Gears 3, Black Ops, MGS: Rising, Fable 3 et al

can't say we aren't being catered for

I didn't say we weren't, only one amazing game in that list too btw   ;D
Fable 3??? ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 06:45:06 AM
Fable sucks so yeah.....
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 15, 2010, 06:47:52 AM
Fable sucks so yeah.....
you only play gears and kids games anyway, so your opinion on other games is void. :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 06:49:58 AM
Fable sucks so yeah.....
you only play gears and kids games anyway, so your opinion on other games is void. :P

Not strictly true but spot on about my opinions, nobody gives a f*ck about 'em  :(
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 15, 2010, 06:53:23 AM
sorry i forgot you also played Pure Football :P

how long did it take you to 1000G Pure Football btw?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 06:54:57 AM
sorry i forgot you also played Pure Football :P

how long did it take you to 1000G Pure Football btw?

Nobody playing online when i got it so couldn't get the online chieves, also it was so bad i wasn't going through career again as a midfielder and defender, only finished with around 450.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 15, 2010, 06:57:17 AM
I won't bother then, i have to get 2 games a week from Blockbuster, but with me going away to Amsterdam on Tuesday i'll only have 4 days to finish 2 games. I was gonna get SSF4 and something else short and easy.

Got Alpha Protocal this week and Dead to Rights. AP took a while for me to get into, but i'm starting to like it more..... Dead to Rights is frakkin awesome, so much fun and great story and acting so far. Truly loving it, highly recommended and easy 1k supposedly.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 06:58:40 AM
Got Alpha Protocal this week and Dead to Rights. AP took a while for me to get into, but i'm starting to like it more..... Dead to Rights is frakkin awesome, so much fun and great story and acting so far. Truly loving it, highly recommended and easy 1k supposedly.

I've got both of those on my rental list, gotta finish DiRT2 first though.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 09:57:10 AM
I quite like the look of Alpha Protocal but some people gave it bad reviews
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 15, 2010, 10:34:46 AM
I quite like the look of Alpha Protocal but some people gave it bad reviews

pretty much everyone, except Maibs.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Maibs on June 15, 2010, 11:00:37 AM
I quite like the look of Alpha Protocal but some people gave it bad reviews

pretty much everyone, except Maibs.

I still really dont get all the hate for it, 2/10 reviews? come on thats just silly, for a 2/10 i expect the programming graphics to be so bad the characters heads are on backwards, great story and great character interaction mared by a dodgy and boring combat system 7/10 at least, not saying it one of the best games this year, its below average, but its still enjoyable and the character interaction/effects is better than ME2 imo.

What did you think of it?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 11:11:27 AM
 I think I will buy it based on maibs honesty. His opinion means more to me than Games Radar and IGN ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 15, 2010, 11:15:48 AM
I quite like the look of Alpha Protocal but some people gave it bad reviews

pretty much everyone, except Maibs.

What did you think of it?

I like it when it's being stealthy and the story is great, apart from that it seems very average. Reminds me of Mass Effect a lot, after you finish the first chapter you get a choice of 3 chapters to pick from just like ME1. I'd say 6/10 so far.

Also i havn't found any bugs or glitches yet, it's been pretty solid.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 11:17:49 AM
I think I will buy it based on maibs honesty. His opinion means more to me than Games Radar and IGN ;)

IGN reviews are shocking for the most part, i'd take even the Daily Star's reviews over them and they never give bad scores.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 11:30:44 AM
I remember Ign gave Tekken 6 8.8 or something. I was so excited that I bought it my boyfriend for his birthday and it was shite :(
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 11:34:26 AM
I remember Ign gave Tekken 6 8.8 or something. I was so excited that I bought it my boyfriend for his birthday and it was shite :(

I wouldn't even give the last 4 Tekken games combined an 8.8, but that's just me.  :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 15, 2010, 11:35:49 AM
they're just not Soul calibur
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 11:38:22 AM
they're just not Soul calibur

Exactly, not even close to their greatness.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 15, 2010, 11:55:15 AM
I like both Tekken and Soul Calibur
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 15, 2010, 01:04:25 PM
Getting back on topic i wonder if they will bring out a board game for kinect. Kinect 4 maybe  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 15, 2010, 01:16:12 PM
Getting back on topic i wonder if they will bring out a board game for kinect. Kinect 4 maybe  ;D

I bet you've been waiting all day to post that eh?  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Quintillus on June 15, 2010, 08:51:19 PM
According to this link Kinetic is going to be a overpriced.
 http://www.teletext.co.uk/gamecentral/news/19e6daa8c4438b0be4311fce731dbb26/Kinect+to+cost+$150.aspx
 (http://www.teletext.co.uk/gamecentral/news/19e6daa8c4438b0be4311fce731dbb26/Kinect+to+cost+$150.aspx)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 16, 2010, 05:49:59 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 16, 2010, 06:23:12 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on June 16, 2010, 06:30:20 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 16, 2010, 10:18:31 AM
I'll own it eventually, just like I own (but never use) every other peripheral.

"When" I buy it is simply a matter of how much I want Kinect-only software.  So far, I haven't seen anything that makes me want it on release, but MS still has time to WOW me.   ;)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 16, 2010, 03:38:12 PM
I'll own it eventually, just like I own (but never use) every other peripheral.

"When" I buy it is simply a matter of how much I want Kinect-only software.  So far, I haven't seen anything that makes me want it on release, but MS still has time to WOW me.   ;)



Every game i saw for it makes me want it!! Especially kinectimals.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 16, 2010, 03:45:58 PM
I'll own it eventually, just like I own (but never use) every other peripheral.

"When" I buy it is simply a matter of how much I want Kinect-only software.  So far, I haven't seen anything that makes me want it on release, but MS still has time to WOW me.   ;)



Every game i saw for it makes me want it!! Especially kinectimals.


I just wanted that tiger to rip that little girl's head off, she was bloody annoying, but that's just me.   ;D

I thought Move looked better at E3 than Kinect, well the games at least did as they looked like actual next gen games instead of Wii rip offs, need to see some proper devs get to grips with Kinect and at the very least, a cat killing simulator, before I can become remotely interested.  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 16, 2010, 04:16:38 PM
I'll own it eventually, just like I own (but never use) every other peripheral.

"When" I buy it is simply a matter of how much I want Kinect-only software.  So far, I haven't seen anything that makes me want it on release, but MS still has time to WOW me.   ;)



Every game i saw for it makes me want it!! Especially kinectimals.


I just wanted that tiger to rip that little girl's head off, she was bloody annoying, but that's just me.   ;D

I thought Move looked better at E3 than Kinect, well the games at least did as they looked like actual next gen games instead of Wii rip offs, need to see some proper devs get to grips with Kinect and at the very least, a cat killing simulator, before I can become remotely interested.  ;D

Agreed ... minus the cat killing.   :P

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 17, 2010, 05:11:57 AM
The "Hype King" is back with more promises he won't deliver on.

E3 2010: Molyneux: Milo is '10 times more amazing' than 2009 demo
Kinect title is "robust" enough for single-player trials, reckons developer

We revealed earlier than Kinect title Milo & Kate still exists (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=252150) - and is being trialled behind closed doors this week. Now, creator Peter Molyneux has told CVG that the finished game is "10 times more amazing" than the demo which set the industry on fire at E3 2009.

Molyneux claimed that the title is playable "in its entirety" and "robust" enough for gamers to get their hands on it unassisted.

The game was notably lacking from Microsoft's E3 2010 conference. The firm focused on Kinect - but decided to omit Milo from its highlighted software line-up.

The 'boy sim' caused shockwaves at E3 2009 - with a filmed demo showing a Lionhead employee having an apparently unscripted conversation with the junior protagonist.

"I promise you it is now ten times more amazing than you'd expect it to be from what you saw at [E3 2009]," said Molyneux. "Because what I showed in Milo then was just a tech demo. I think every one asked: 'That was pretty fascinating, but what does it all mean?'

"It's only when you see it in its entirety and play it that you realise it's robust enough for people to play on their own."

We'd have loved to have played it here, but only celebs are getting that honour, it seems.

Must. Be. Patient.

Molyenux is in town to promote Fable III, which did get an impressive showing at MS's conference.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 17, 2010, 11:32:29 AM
Kinect doesn't play well with couch potatoes (http://kotaku.com/5565777/xbox-kinect-does-not-play-well-with-couch-potatoes)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 17, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
Kinect doesn't play well with couch potatoes (http://kotaku.com/5565777/xbox-kinect-does-not-play-well-with-couch-potatoes)

"Sitting is something we're still calibrating for"

I will not buy Kinect until it allows me to fully control non-game menus while sitting down.  Period.

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: KoreRupt on June 17, 2010, 06:40:01 PM
Kinect doesn't play well with couch potatoes (http://kotaku.com/5565777/xbox-kinect-does-not-play-well-with-couch-potatoes)

"Sitting is something we're still calibrating for"

I will not buy Kinect until it allows me to fully control non-game menus while sitting down.  Period.



I have no problem running around doing 'stuff' to play games like waving my hands like a idiot for star wars lightsaber fights.. but unfortunately my xbox is in the 'box room' of the house.. therefor no space.  If this kinect doesnt cater for people who cant move around then its useless!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 05:26:35 AM
Rare: Kinect lag "not an issue"

Is lag a problem for Kinect? Not according to Rare, the studio tasked with producing one of its flagship launch titles, Kinect Sports.

Speaking to Eurogamer in LA this week, Nick Burton, exec producer of technology and communications for the Britsoft veteran, claimed earlier problems had been overcome. "Lag is not an issue," he said. "As with any prototype stuff, of course it was in the past. That's to be expected.

"Where we're at now, not at all. Yes, we've done a lot work to make sure it wasn't a problem, but when you've got something that's copying what you're doing you can't have a lot of lag."

Burton said lag for Kinetic Sports is set at 150ms which, as Digital Foundry smarty-pants Richard Leadbetter pointed out, does not include TV lag.

Lag is more evident in some titles than others at E3 this week and, since some degree of it is unavoidable, the onus will be on developers to work around it to ensure acceptable response times.

Meanwhile, the studio was also keen to dispel the belief - amplified by the recent rebranding - it was now focusing exclusively on casual games.

"It's been the focus for the past couple of years, but we're going to do all kinds of stuff," Burton said. "Obviously the rebrand for us was more about we wanted to freshen up the image - it was just time for a chance. We've done it before, we'll probably do it again.

"We are continually looking at what the next thing's going to be. It might be casual, it might be core, we've had such an eclectic mix over the years and we'll continue to do that."

He added: "It's not always going to be as casual as [Kinect Sports]; this is just something we got really excited about."

Burton refused, however, to be drawn on the studio's other projects, stating: "This is the only Rare game you're seeing at the moment."

While Kinect Sports can be seen as filling the 'Wii Sports' role in the initial Kinect line-up, Burton said the experience on offer is far more advanced.

"There's so much more data, so much more fidelity, so many more things you can do," he said. "Kinect's not just about tracking - there's voice recognition, identity, so many things. It's more than the sum of its parts. I've been involved for a couple of years and even now we're like, "Wow, there's all these things we could do!"


It does all that but still can't let you chill out and play it sat down, awesome!   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 06:22:41 AM
E3 2010: MS 'f***ed up' with E3 conference - Eden producer
Platform holder should've shown off Child of Eden, says producer

Microsoft "f***ed up big time" not showing one of the few 'core' Kinect games, Child of Eden at its E3 press conference, the game's producer has said.

Speaking to journo Stephen Webster at E3, producer James Mielke said Microsoft had the opportunity to showcase the Tetsuya Mizuguchi game at its press conference, but opted for Wii-like 'casual' games instead.

"Yeah, Microsoft fucked up big time," he said. "They had a chance to feature it for Kinect but decided to focus on family-friendly games like what's on Wii.

"They weren't expecting everyone to react so negatively," he added. "After we showed off our game at UbiSoft, the Microsoft people came to our booth like, 'Oh, oh wow.'"

During the show, adds Mielke, even Shigeru Miyamoto visited the Child of Eden stand for a demonstration from creator, Tetsuya Mizuguchi.

According to Mielke, the legendary Zelda and Mario creator called Eden "game of the show." We're bloody excited, for a start. It's REZ TWO.

See it in action via the Child of Eden trailer (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=251522).
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 18, 2010, 06:57:12 AM
ofcourse they didn't show Child of Eden. Not only will it be available on PS3 using Move but you'll can also play it with a normal controller.

Here's this amazing game coming out for Kinect ...... and Move  :-\
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 08:06:17 AM
Burger King Returns To The 360, This Time For Kinect

Burker King's cheap 360 games a few years back were a surprise success. Now that Kinect is due in stores for the holiday season, the food giant wants to take a second bite of the Xbox market.

While exact details on the style or number of games aren't being disclosed until later in the year, Burger King's chief marketing officer Mike Kappitt says, "Our first endeavor with Xbox 360 took the gaming world by storm, so we couldn't pass up the chance to come together on another cutting-edge program."

"During this year's promotion, our guests can look forward to an even greater adventure that will stimulate the imaginations of gamers and entertainment-lovers of all shapes and sizes."

Please please please be a fitness game.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 18, 2010, 08:09:28 AM
i hope doritos release a game too :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 08:35:46 AM
Kinect's Best Game Could be The Most Important Game of E3 (http://kotaku.com/5566468/the-best-game-for-kinect-game-could-be-the-most-important-game-of-e3)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 18, 2010, 08:49:54 AM
Kinect's Best Game Could be The Most Important Game of E3 (http://kotaku.com/5566468/the-best-game-for-kinect-game-could-be-the-most-important-game-of-e3)


that actually looks pretty good
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 18, 2010, 08:52:04 AM
Kinect's Best Game Could be The Most Important Game of E3 (http://kotaku.com/5566468/the-best-game-for-kinect-game-could-be-the-most-important-game-of-e3)


that actually looks pretty good

it will be one of my first kinect game purchases. along with kinectimals and kinect sports.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 18, 2010, 08:52:32 AM
Kinect's Best Game Could be The Most Important Game of E3 (http://kotaku.com/5566468/the-best-game-for-kinect-game-could-be-the-most-important-game-of-e3)


that actually looks pretty good

it will be one of my first kinect game purchases. along with kinectimals and kinect sports.


i thought you were just gonna buy 2 of everything ??
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 08:52:57 AM
Kinect's Best Game Could be The Most Important Game of E3 (http://kotaku.com/5566468/the-best-game-for-kinect-game-could-be-the-most-important-game-of-e3)


that actually looks pretty good

They showed it during MS's conference, looks far better than Just Dance on the Wii that's for sure.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 10:20:13 AM
Joy Ride May Highlight a Major Kinect Problem

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/06/500x_custom_1276868786851_race141_01.jpg)

The last time I saw Joy Ride was at last year's E3 showing when the Xbox 360 title was a fun little free game due out for Xbox Live to help usher in the online service's avatars.

The mysteriously-absent game suddenly reappeared at this year's E3, now designed to help usher in the Xbox 360's controller-free, motion-sensing Kinect... for a price and with one major flaw.

Played without a physical controller Kinect Joy Ride does lose some of its nuance. You can no longer mash one button to accelerate and another to brake. Instead, you play the cartoon-ish car racing game in cruise control, racking up boost power by performing tricks and drifts.

While you lose two buttons and that thumbstick control so commonly found in console racers, you gain the ability to drive a care by holding your hands in the air, as if gripping a steering wheel and just steering.

The controls, when Kinect have you locked in, work like a dream. I was able to effortlessly slip my cartoon cruiser through other cars just by turning an imaginary steering wheel in the air in front of me. It did help, I found, to sort of lean into the turn, making my car steer a little sharper.

To drift around corners you have to throw your hip out to the side. Sure it sounds, and maybe looks a bit silly, but it is kind of fun.

Stunts are performed by moving your body around when your car goes airborn, leaning to the right or left, bowing forward or back or turning completely around in place.

Once you've built up enough power, you can kick in a turbo boost by shoving both hands forward as if pushing that invisible wheel away from you quickly.

It was a fun experience and only suffered from a slight bit of delayed response.

Joy Ride also has a mode that has you steering your car back and forth in a giant concrete half-pipe, essentially turning your car into a skateboard as you do stunts and power higher and higher off the lip of that pipe.

While the early build of the game was fun to play, it wasn't without issues.

While playing the game at a recent Microsoft event, a person walked up to the table on which the television was sitting to pick up a glass. They never walked in front of the tv, staying instead to the side where I didn't even notice them. But for some reason the Kinect camera apparently spotted them and started tracking their body, forcing my car to the left and making it impossible for me to steer.

I managed to drag my car along the side of the race track to the end, but the camera never corrected.

Developers Big Park said they were still tweaking the interface, but that's a worrying problem.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 10:34:39 AM
E3 2010: Producer 'didn't make' MS 'f***ed up' comments
Child of Eden producer denies 'MS f***ed up' quotes

Child of Eden's producer has denied reports claiming he said Microsoft "f***ed up big time" with its E3 press conference.

According to the previous report, Q Entertainment's James Mielke said Microsoft "had a chance to feature [Child of Eden] for Kinect but decided to focus on family-friendly games like what's on Wii."

Mielke has since contacted CVG to tell us he "did not volunteer any such quotes".

He said: "I just wanted to alert you that I did not volunteer any such quotes to him for use in a story, and that he paraphrased a joke from my Facebook page and attempted to turn it into news.

"I just wanted to clarify the validity of your story's source." That's that sorted then.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 18, 2010, 10:53:02 AM
Activision 'cautious' over Kinect, Move
Company wants to see how market reacts to motion devices

Activision has said that it's in no rush to announce dedicated Move and Kinect games - or new IP for that matter.

"Down the road, as we see an install base emerging on these new innovations and user interfaces from Sony and Xbox, we will have certain games for which they will be suitable and open up new ways to innovate and enhance the user experience," chief operating officer Thomas Tippl told GameSpot.

"We don't just want to introduce it everywhere whether it's going to get the player a better experience [or not]."

Tippl also told Gamasutra that the company will continue to innovate with existing franchises rather than heavily investing in risky new IP.

"[Franchise fatigue] is something that I have not bought into," he said. "I think it's an excuse for lack of innovation. If you have a great franchise and you stop innovating, then yes, you will lose your fan base.

"[Launching a new IP] is a very, very difficult thing to do, which is why we do it, but extremely selectively."
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 22, 2010, 04:54:30 AM
Kinect lags it up on Jimmy Fallon (http://kotaku.com/5569409/watch-kinect-lag-it-up-on-jimmy-fallon)

Nice tv though  :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 22, 2010, 05:08:39 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 22, 2010, 01:38:41 PM
Kinect costs $150 to manufacture - report
Publisher unrest over higher-than-expected manufacturing costs, according to a "source"

$100 was the limit I drew for myself as a standalone purchase.  If I spend $150, it better come with $50 worth of games/bonus stuff.

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on June 22, 2010, 01:40:49 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 22, 2010, 01:50:28 PM
It could be less than a tenner and I still wouldn't buy it, infact if it was given away free with Gears of War 3 next April i'd leave it in the shop.  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on June 23, 2010, 02:00:25 AM
It could be less than a tenner and I still wouldn't buy it, infact if it was given away free with Gears of War 3 next April i'd leave it in the shop.  ;D

I feel the same.I'd also leave gears 3 there with it in lonely corner!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 24, 2010, 09:45:55 AM
Kinect is for everyone, says Microsoft (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=20630)

Everyone but Craig  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 24, 2010, 11:01:21 AM
Kinect is for everyone, says Microsoft (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=20630)

"Guys I have nothing to do with Kinect Pricing," the tweet says. "All prices now *no matter what the retail source* are placeholders. We've not announced."

I think Microsoft is using this "placeholder" strategy to test the reaction of it's potential customers.  Retailers are already taking preorders.

I'd bet that Microsoft has a preorder goal in mind.  If preorders reach that number at $150 pricetag, they'll stick with the $150.  If they don't receive enough preorders, they'll announce Kinect's REAL price, which will probably be $100.

So my advice to the world ... DON'T PREORDER KINECT!    8)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 24, 2010, 11:08:26 AM
So my advice to the world ... DON'T PREORDER KINECT!    8)

I was just about to pre-order it too  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 24, 2010, 11:21:44 AM
MS: We'll do Kinect FPS 'someday' (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=253215)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 25, 2010, 08:05:23 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 25, 2010, 08:45:43 AM
The guy is a dick. I have watched his shows and he isn't even funny. He just says things for effect, supposedly comedic. I disagree entirely with him, no matter what he says about anything  :P he is just another journalist who sits on his oh so high horse and finds fault with everything so people think he is more intelligent than he actually his. Other than that he is a nice guy  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Astrex on June 25, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
The guy is a Wanker. I have watched his shows and he isn't even funny. He just says things for effect, supposedly comedic. I disagree entirely with him, no matter what he says about anything  :P he is just another journalist who sits on his oh so high horse and finds fault with everything so people think he is more intelligent than he actually his. Other than that he is a nice guy  ;D

Fixed  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 25, 2010, 10:05:30 AM
Charlie Brooker is awesome, great writer, very funny and seems to echo a lot of my thoughts, he's also an avid gamer so his opinions carry far more weight than the usual journalist crap we have to put up with, top man.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 25, 2010, 10:13:48 AM
Charlie Brooker is awesome, great writer, very funny and seems to echo a lot of my thoughts, he's also an avid gamer so his opinions carry far more weight than the usual journalist crap we have to put up with, top man.

LOL. I know you like him thats why i wrote what i did  :P I do disagree with his kinect comments though, but then again i am a kinect fan boy  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 25, 2010, 10:16:40 AM
Charlie Brooker is awesome, great writer, very funny and seems to echo a lot of my thoughts, he's also an avid gamer so his opinions carry far more weight than the usual journalist crap we have to put up with, top man.

LOL. I know you like him thats why i wrote what i did  :P I do disagree with his kinect comments though, but then again i am a kinect fan boy  ;D

Can't say i've noticed  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 25, 2010, 11:36:23 AM
Game and HMV to demo Kinect in stores
You'll be able to play before you buy

GAME and HMV have confirmed that they'll have in-store Kinect demos where punters can try Microsoft's new interface for themselves.

"The key to Kinect and to getting customers is obviously all about demonstration," Neil Ashurst, Head of UK PR for Game told TechRadar.

"So at the moment our focus is looking at ways of doing that. Beyond that we don't have any specific details at present."

The news comes after Microsoft announced it would have Kinect on display at its handful of retail stores in the US.



I can hardly contain my excitement.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 25, 2010, 12:45:40 PM
Charlie Brooker on Kinect.

Why talk to a computer? Surely talking to a human is traumatic enough?

... you can also converse with them, thus enabling you to enjoy all the fun of a full-blown psychotic hallucination

I laughed at that.   :D

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on June 25, 2010, 02:56:11 PM
Quote from: My Favourite Quote
It actually manages to make Minority Report look dated. Tom Cruise had to don special gloves to use his hand-waggling computer interface. Loser. What is this, 1976? Kinect lets you ride bareback.

Heehee!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 27, 2010, 06:37:25 AM
Justin Bieber advertising Kinect on tour (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/26/justin-bieber-advertising-kinect-on-tour/)


Oh joy!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 28, 2010, 05:07:10 AM
Molyneux fancies Kinect Black & White

Lionhead's Peter Molyneux has said that he loves the idea of a version of his PC god game Black & White for Xbox 360 motion controller Kinect, but it's unlikely he'll have time.

The two Black & White games featured a gesture interface that allowed you to cast spells, interact with your giant creature and manage your worshippers' settlements, so the series is an obvious fit for Microsoft's camera device, he reasoned.

"The original Black & White - with the hand, reaching in and touching and stroking, you can really factor that with Kinect, and it could be really super cool," Molyneux mused to UGO.

"It's purely me just thinking about it, and thinking about what Black & White means. I love the idea of that connection the hand gave you into the world, the feeling of power, the feeling of nuturing."

But although he said "maybe it is something I should revisit," Molyneux confessed that there was too much on his plate to entertain the idea right now.

"The trouble with being a designer now is that there are way too many ideas than there is time to develop those ideas," he said.

"I would love to do something like a Black & White again. I would love to do a Fable 4. I would love to carry on doing Milo, but there is only a certain amount of resources and a certain amount of time."
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 28, 2010, 05:48:11 AM
Diskinected (http://www.extraguy.com/2010/06/diskinected/)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 28, 2010, 09:53:23 AM
Just give me voice commands and easy hand-motion menu navigation (while sitting down) and that is well worth my $100.

I don't expect any 'killer apps' until at least a year after launch.

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Maibs on June 28, 2010, 01:53:03 PM
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3729/wambulancelogo.jpg)

Its not even out yet, theres a lot we dont know, it wont be jaw-dropping(ly) amazing but i gotta say im still slighty looking forward to it.
Would like to see some proper games for it tho, not just get your fake family around and dance and act like a twat, Black and White would be awesome on it and can think of a few more games that would be pretty good/intresting.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 29, 2010, 04:52:42 AM
Microsoft: Project Milo "Not A Game We're Planning To Bring To The Market"

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/06/500x_miloface.jpg)

We'd always thought Project Milo, Lionhead's Kinect tech demo from E3 2009, was an actual game. Or at least an actual something. Turns out it's not, and will probably never be released to market.

While Microsoft told us that "Project Milo is something that is in ongoing development at Lionhead Studios" following its no-show at this year's E3, Xbox's director of product management Aaron Greenberg now tells Aussie TV show Good Game, "Last year we unveiled the Project Natal technology, we showed a bunch of technology demos as part of that. And obviously [Milo] is a technology demo that continues to exist, but right now it's not a game that we're planning to bring to market."

Sure answers the question of "how the hell is this kid supposed to be fun?", if a tech demo was all it was intended to be. It now seems likely that whatever technology was powering Milo will turn up in a future Lionhead game. Fable IV: The Apprentice, maybe?



I've been saying that Milo was only a crappy tech demo since it was first shown at E3 09, looks like I was right for once.  :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 29, 2010, 05:14:22 AM
well that's just ruined my life. I so wanted a milo  :'(
guess i will just have to make do with my boring, can't even pass things to her through the tv screen daughter  :'(
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on June 29, 2010, 11:27:02 AM
well that's just ruined my life. I so wanted a milo  :'(
guess i will just have to make do with my boring, can't even pass things to her through the tv screen daughter  :'(


I can't pass things to my daughter through the tv screen.  But she can pass things to me ..
































(http://blog.plusfactory.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ring-girl-tv_thumb.jpg)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 29, 2010, 11:32:15 AM
well that's just ruined my life. I so wanted a milo  :'(
guess i will just have to make do with my boring, can't even pass things to her through the tv screen daughter  :'(


I can't pass things to my daughter through the tv screen.  But she can pass things to me ..
































(http://blog.plusfactory.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ring-girl-tv_thumb.jpg)



You shouldn't use the crappy US remake girl, Sadako > Samara, original is best.   :)

(http://youoffendmeyouoffendmyfamily.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Ringu.jpg)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 30, 2010, 07:10:44 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 30, 2010, 07:24:47 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 30, 2010, 07:25:41 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 30, 2010, 07:39:48 AM
I think initially MS will just sell Kinect on it's own and see how well it shifts and then if it's not selling well they'll bundle it with the 360S, though with it being released so close to Christmas a bundle option straightaway would make more sense.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 30, 2010, 08:21:08 AM
I think initially MS will just sell Kinect on it's own and see how well it shifts and then if it's not selling well they'll bundle it with the 360S, though with it being released so close to Christmas a bundle option straightaway would make more sense.

I hope your right. Vicki really wants my super elite in the bedroom so we don't have annoying split screen on gears when we are playing online. It also means we could play other games online together, and boost some of my older games for online achievements. I also really want the new machine, due to it's sex appeal, and we both want kinect so if we could get a bundle deal in november that would be perfect for both of us  :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 30, 2010, 08:23:51 AM
I think initially MS will just sell Kinect on it's own and see how well it shifts and then if it's not selling well they'll bundle it with the 360S, though with it being released so close to Christmas a bundle option straightaway would make more sense.

I hope your right. Vicki really wants my super elite in the bedroom so we don't have annoying split screen on gears when we are playing online. It also means we could play other games online together, and boost some of my older games for online achievements. I also really want the new machine, due to it's sex appeal, and we both want kinect so if we could get a bundle deal in november that would be perfect for both of us  :)

As soon as any bundles are official, i'll post them right here, it's pretty much all i'm good for these days, well that and hating on the French.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on June 30, 2010, 08:31:35 AM
I think initially MS will just sell Kinect on it's own and see how well it shifts and then if it's not selling well they'll bundle it with the 360S, though with it being released so close to Christmas a bundle option straightaway would make more sense.

I hope your right. Vicki really wants my super elite in the bedroom so we don't have annoying split screen on gears when we are playing online. It also means we could play other games online together, and boost some of my older games for online achievements. I also really want the new machine, due to it's sex appeal, and we both want kinect so if we could get a bundle deal in november that would be perfect for both of us  :)

As soon as any bundles are official, i'll post them right here, it's pretty much all i'm good for these days, well that and hating on the French.   ;D

LOL. I know vicki was telling me you were winding her up about her being part french. Kepep up the good work  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on June 30, 2010, 12:19:26 PM
I think initially MS will just sell Kinect on it's own and see how well it shifts and then if it's not selling well they'll bundle it with the 360S, though with it being released so close to Christmas a bundle option straightaway would make more sense.

I hope your right. Vicki really wants my super elite in the bedroom so we don't have annoying split screen on gears when we are playing online. It also means we could play other games online together, and boost some of my older games for online achievements. I also really want the new machine, due to it's sex appeal, and we both want kinect so if we could get a bundle deal in november that would be perfect for both of us  :)

Too many double entendres! I could'nt stop laughing!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on June 30, 2010, 06:49:39 PM
Alleged Kinect hardware specs claim two active player limit (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/30/alleged-kinect-hardware-specs-claim-two-active-player-limit/)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 01, 2010, 04:43:54 AM
Alleged Kinect hardware specs claim two active player limit (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/30/alleged-kinect-hardware-specs-claim-two-active-player-limit/)

I am glad about that. The more people you have in front of the tv waving their arms and legs around the more chance of someone falling and breaking said tv. Two is enough!! Besides you could do winner stays on. I got it all planned out  :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Legion on July 02, 2010, 06:58:44 PM
That and most people don't have enough room in their living room for more than 2 people to be dancing around like retards.

Kinect looks good, but if (I say if, but I mean when) I get it it'll be relegated to being a fancy TV/Xbox media player remote and occasionaly get used for the messenger video chat functions. Other than that it'lll end up not being used unless they improve drastically on the caliber and quality of the games they plan to release with it. I don't want a pet Tiger cub, what the f*ck is the point? I have a pet turtle and a pet alien already. (Tamagotchi ftw)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on July 03, 2010, 05:40:31 AM
I purposefully have no room near my TV to avoid anyone getting the idea to prance about!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 03, 2010, 06:37:11 AM
I purposefully have no room near my TV to avoid anyone getting the idea to prance about!

 ;D

Just like me.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 03, 2010, 02:08:03 PM
I got loads of room, and yes i DO want a pet tiger!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 03, 2010, 02:16:09 PM
If my front room was the size of Old Trafford I still wouldn't have enough room for Kinect.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 03, 2010, 02:51:20 PM
Beware: Kinect is watching you (http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2010/07/03/beware-kinect-is-watching-you/)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Legion on July 03, 2010, 05:21:49 PM
Yeah, thinking about it like that, I'm am never leaving Kinect connected to my Xbox when I'm finished using it. Thast article has just jumped my paranoia into overdrive. :-\
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 04, 2010, 05:57:55 AM
Yeah, thinking about it like that, I'm am never leaving Kinect connected to my Xbox when I'm finished using it. Thast article has just jumped my paranoia into overdrive. :-\

Sorry mate  :)

I'm alright as I won't be buying it.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on July 04, 2010, 12:55:50 PM
I personally am lookin forward to kinect i can't wait an as for that bout microsoft bein able to watch u -what a crock of sh*t stop makin excuses for not gettin it we all know u all want it ur to scared to admit that u all want a pet tiger !!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on July 04, 2010, 12:57:32 PM
I personally am lookin forward to kinect i can't wait an as for that bout microsoft bein able to watch u -what a crock of sh*t stop makin excuses for not gettin it we all know u all want it ur to scared to admit that u all want a pet tiger !!

You tell him newbie!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 04, 2010, 01:22:48 PM
I want Kinect as much as I want Liverpool to win another league title.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 04, 2010, 01:26:25 PM
we all get watched all the time anyway everywhere we go.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Legion on July 04, 2010, 01:28:19 PM
But I don't wanna be watched in my home D:
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 04, 2010, 01:46:20 PM
But I don't wanna be watched in my home D:

the story that you could be watched in your home is absolute bollocks. If microsoft did that and got found out they would lose millions of dollars in law suits. It's just ridiculous nonsense.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 04, 2010, 01:55:06 PM
But I don't wanna be watched in my home D:

the story that you could be watched in your home is absolute bollocks. If microsoft did that and got found out they would lose millions of dollars in law suits. It's just ridiculous nonsense.

It's actually true, why do you think all Windows laptops now come with integrated webcams  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on July 04, 2010, 01:58:35 PM


It's actually true, why do you think all Windows laptops now come with integrated webcams  ;D


so microsoft can watch me jacking off to pictures from the woman in swimsuits from the 40's .... just a glimpse of ankle mmmmmm
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 06, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
Yeah, thinking about it like that, I'm am never leaving Kinect connected to my Xbox when I'm finished using it. Thast article has just jumped my paranoia into overdrive. :-\

I'll be draping a handkerchief over Kinect while I'm not using it.   Like a bird cage.  ;)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on July 06, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
Yeah, thinking about it like that, I'm am never leaving Kinect connected to my Xbox when I'm finished using it. Thast article has just jumped my paranoia into overdrive. :-\

I'll be draping a handkerchief over Kinect while I'm not using it.   Like a bird cage.  ;)



LMAO, it's alive!!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 07, 2010, 03:02:50 PM
Casual Kinect 'surprises' Sony
Platform rival praises Xbox strength with FPS games - but is perplexed by 'polarised' approach

Sony has revealed its "surprise" over Microsoft's casual launch line-up for Kinect.

Microsoft unveiled Kinect at E3 last month with a wealth of Wii-esque titles, including Kinectimals, Kinect Sports and Joyride.

Sony worldwide studios boss Shuhei Yoshida told the August issue of Edge magazine that he respected Microsoft's strength with FPS games.

However, he said he was bemused by its family-friendly approach with its new motion sensing peripheral.

"In practical purposes, those are Microsoft's strengths - they have very strong FPSes, for example," he said, "and they work with Activision to provide content for Call Of Duty.

"It's very interesting to see them confirm where they have those strengths by opening [their E3 presentation] with those games.

"When they showed Kinect I was surprised to see so much on the casual side. It was a polarised kind of approach."

Yoshida said that Sony's approach was more widespread. "We are not focusing on one area, or two areas, but covering a full audience spectrum," he added.

You can read the full interview with Yoshida-san in issue 217 of EDGE.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Legion on July 07, 2010, 05:51:06 PM
Seems to me like casual games are pretty much the only thing Microsoft can bring out on Kinect so far. It's like when a new console is released and all the new games for it are really basic. It's gonna be easier for them to start with  simpler games for the beginning few months/years, and work up to making more 'Xbox-esque' games when they have more experience with the technology.
Sony are just pissed that they didn't come up with Kinect first.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 08, 2010, 06:35:21 AM
MS: Kinect CAN be played sitting down
"...when an experience is developed with sitting in mind"

Good news for lazy gamers. Microsoft has said that Kinect games CAN be played while sitting down - if the game has been designed for you to do so.

Microsoft dismisses fears that all Kinect games will have you on your feet, telling Joystiq today: "Kinect can be used while sitting when an experience is developed with sitting in mind."

Concerns stem from the current selection of Kinect games that have been show, all of which show the user standing to play them. But MS pointed to applications such as browsing the Xbox dashboard or controlling movies on the console with Kinect as "experiences where we expect people to be sitting."

MS promises that its E3 showing was "only the tip of the iceberg" and that it's "natural for Kinect games to be designed to get you off the couch: dancing, running, dodging, bending and kicking."

We just don't like the idea of a game deciding if we can sit or not. Have you ever played Wii Sports bowling seated? We have - sometimes you just don't feel like standing up. Wii can be tricked though. It seems Kinect cannot.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Astrex on July 08, 2010, 06:39:36 AM
It's the wii, it's all in the wrist, I used to play Golf sitting down  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 08, 2010, 09:37:39 AM
Seems to me like casual games are pretty much the only thing Microsoft can bring out on Kinect so far. It's like when a new console is released and all the new games for it are really basic. It's gonna be easier for them to start with  simpler games for the beginning few months/years, and work up to making more 'Xbox-esque' games when they have more experience with the technology.
Sony are just pissed that they didn't come up with Kinect first.

I agree with everything you said there. I am one of the few people that is really looking forward to kinect. I have an eight year old daughter so i am pleased with the initial line up of games, it means i can spend time with her AND my xbox at the same time.  :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on July 09, 2010, 09:46:12 AM
Aww there he goes again always thinking  of his child . Brings a tear to the eye :'(
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 09, 2010, 10:25:31 AM
Aww there he goes again always thinking  of his child . Brings a tear to the eye :'(

He just enjoys beating her at games.   ;)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 13, 2010, 06:02:54 AM
Kinect banned in China
China law blocks sale of motion device along with the console itself

Microsoft will not be allowed to legally sell its upcoming motion control device Kinect in China because of a law that also blocks the sale of the Xbox 360 itself in the country.

Microsoft China COO Michel Van Der Be confirmed that the new device will be the latest in a string of gaming hardware to be banned in accordance with China's Ministry of Culture edict issued in 2000, which prohibits the sale of video game equipment and accessories, according to report (via Gamasutra).

As Gama notes, there's still a significant underground market for consoles in China, in which the Xbox has been said to be leading in the current generation.

MS hasn't said it whether or not it will appeal against the ban, but Van Der Be says the firm will obey local law.

Kinect will be out in more gaming-friendly territories this side of the planet on November 4.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on July 13, 2010, 08:43:17 AM
Kinect banned in China
China law blocks sale of motion device along with the console itself

Microsoft will not be allowed to legally sell its upcoming motion control device Kinect in China because of a law that also blocks the sale of the Xbox 360 itself in the country.

Microsoft China COO Michel Van Der Be confirmed that the new device will be the latest in a string of gaming hardware to be banned in accordance with China's Ministry of Culture edict issued in 2000, which prohibits the sale of video game equipment and accessories, according to report (via Gamasutra).

As Gama notes, there's still a significant underground market for consoles in China, in which the Xbox has been said to be leading in the current generation.

MS hasn't said it whether or not it will appeal against the ban, but Van Der Be says the firm will obey local law.

Kinect will be out in more gaming-friendly territories this side of the planet on November 4.

why oh why did china get the olympics a couple of years ago. Oh yeah, so governments could continue to trade with them.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 13, 2010, 09:02:51 AM
Microsoft will not be allowed to legally sell its upcoming motion control device Kinect in China because of a law that also blocks the sale of the Xbox 360 itself in the country.

It would be funny if they allowed Kinect to be sold, but not the Xbox 360.  You know ... because it doesn't work without a console.  (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 14, 2010, 07:58:00 AM
BBC: Milo & Kate is a tech demo after all

Microsoft currently has no plans to release Milo & Kate after all, Peter Molyneux has reportedly told the TED Global conference in Oxford.

A fortnight ago Microsoft mouthpiece Aaron Greenberg said "right now it's not a game" before changing his mind, after which Lionhead boss Molyneux waded in and said Greenberg's original comment was based on out-of-date information.

According to the BBC report on Molyneux's speech at the TED Global conference in Oxford - where technology gurus are given 18 minutes to present their ideas - the veteran games designer said the Milo technology is in development and Microsoft has no plans to release it.

However, he also hinted that the game was designed for widespread use and could end up being a commercial product one day.

We've contacted Molyneux's spokesperson for comment.

Molyneux also walked attendees through an updated demo of the technology, which was first shown at E3 2009 during the unveiling of Kinect - then known as Project Natal.

One particularly interesting detail was that Milo's mind "is based in the cloud", meaning that his artificial intelligence improves as people around the world play with him and that development is fed back to the whole over the internet. "As millions of people use it, Milo will get smarter," Molyneux said. Careful, Peter (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/).

Describing Milo as "a new revolution in storytelling", Molyneux said that "films, TV, even hallowed books, are just rubbish because they don't involve me". "It's a sea of blandness," he said.

The audience was told that Milo is a kid who has just moved from London to New England and has lots of time to himself. In the demo, Molyneux's assistant helped Milo explore a garden, skim stones and share secrets.

Molyneux said "no two people's Milos can be the same" because of the degree to which the player's actions sculpt his personality. "Some of the things you are doing will change the course of his life," he said, noting that after 45 minutes Milo recognises you.

The software allows Lionhead "complete control" over facial animation - right down to blushing and nostril width - to help convey stress and emotion. Apparently it's partly thanks to technology found "hidden in the dusty vaults of Microsoft". Top men.

"Most of it is just a trick - but it is a trick that actually works," Molyneux said. "I can promise you that if you are sitting in front of this screen, that is a truly wonderful moment."

That was more or less it, but he did add that the section being shown was early in the game, and that later on things got a bit more exotic. "There are lots of adventures - some of which are quite dark," Molyneux, whose other games include Fable III, explained.



He's off talking bollocks again, if anyone can promise you the world and give you a marble it's Molyneux.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 14, 2010, 09:39:57 AM
Molyneux may never release a "Milo" game, but concidering the crazy response it received from the public, I would be shocked if another developer didn't steal the concept and release their own.

In 3 years, I bet there will be at least 2 "Milo" clones on the market.

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on July 14, 2010, 10:06:36 AM
i'd name my clone smilo
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: TaraJayne on July 16, 2010, 04:34:35 PM
i'd name my clone smilo
Really? I thought you might have chosen Mr Hyde  :D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 20, 2010, 12:20:14 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 20, 2010, 12:30:37 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 20, 2010, 12:43:05 PM
Project Milo back on

Microsoft's on again off again relationship with Peter Molyneux's Kinect project Milo & Kate appears to be on again.

Last week at the TEDGlobal Conference in Oxford Lionhead boss Peter Molyneux said Microsoft had no plans to release Milo & Kate, according to a BBC report.

A fortnight previous, Microsoft mouthpiece Aaron Greenberg said "right now it's not a game" before changing his mind, after which Lionhead boss Molyneux waded in and said Greenberg's original comment was based on out-of-date information.

But according to Greenberg, who we spoke to last night, there's still a chance that Project Milo will be released.

"You can see that it's definitely not just a tech demo," Xbox product director Aaron Greenberg told Eurogamer in an interview (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/microsofts-aaron-greenberg-interview_1).

"They're building something that's pretty unique and compelling. We leave it up to Peter and his team to determine what that game is and when it would come to market. All we've said is that at this point in time it's not coming this holiday. But as you can see it's definitely quite a bit more than just a tech demo.

"What that turns out to be and how it gets brought to market all remains to be seen. We're fortunate to have one of the brilliant creators of our industry pushing the boundaries of creativity with this project. It's been exciting for people that have seen a preview of it. He's [Peter Molyneux] best to speak to about what this product will eventually become."

So it's Molyneux's decision whether it gets released?

"There are a whole variety of factors. But for now it's in Peter's hands. Peter serves as our creative director for all of our studios in Europe. What that turns out to be and all those details remain to be seen. It's not something we're bringing to market this holiday, so we're going to be a bit more vague about it than if it was launching in a couple of months."



Such is the extent of Hype King Molyneux's BS, he could physically show me Milo working in my house on my very own 360 even without Kinect connected and I still wouldn't believe that it exists.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: markav on July 20, 2010, 01:20:03 PM
I will buy it if Milo ends up like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWta2A0sVI
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on July 20, 2010, 02:30:42 PM
But I don't wanna be watched in my home D:

the story that you could be watched in your home is absolute bollocks. If microsoft did that and got found out they would lose millions of dollars in law suits. It's just ridiculous nonsense.

It's actually true, why do you think all Windows laptops now come with integrated webcams  ;D
bloody hope its not true u do not wanna see me first thing in a mornin
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 20, 2010, 07:35:13 PM
I will buy it if Milo ends up like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxWta2A0sVI

That was disturbing.










... I must have one!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Astrex on July 21, 2010, 04:25:31 AM
I love her  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 22, 2010, 08:26:59 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on July 22, 2010, 08:53:01 AM

So I think we'll make a good trade-in market on it,"


ooo moneyz
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 29, 2010, 01:40:27 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on July 29, 2010, 01:46:02 PM
Kinect no good for flight games says Ubisoft
"Buttons are need to control an airplane" says H.A.W.X. 2 man.

Edward Douglas, the narrative director for H.A.W.X. 2, has told CVG that flight games won't work on Kinect.

"My personal thought is that buttons are needed to control an airplane," he explained, getting straight to the point. "Why would you go so far away from that kind of authenticity?"

Well, that was straight to the point. So don't expect to see H.A.W.X. 2 feature any Kinect compatibility and arguably not at any point in the series. But do you think there will be an air combat sim that uses Kinect one day?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 29, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
Microsoft defends Kinect price
"The price thing itself depends on how you look at it" MS explains.

Totally!

If you look at it backwards, it's only $99!





... dummies  (http://360fahrenheit.com/fahrenh1_forum1/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 29, 2010, 03:23:19 PM
Kinect no good for flight games says Ubisoft
"Buttons are need to control an airplane" says H.A.W.X. 2 man.

The day they announced "Natal", I always assumed it would eventually be incorporated WITH a controller.  Sort of like Sony's sixaxis feature, but ... you know ... actually works.

Being able to steer an aircraft by motioning your controller is just common sense.  How many times have you played a racing game or something and physically tilted your arms trying to make a sharp turn?  Does it do anything?  No.  But it's just a natural human response that developers should take advantage of to immerse gamers.

Kinect = Interesting Gimmick
Controller = Precision
Kinect + Controller = Awesome!

Make it happen devs.   :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on July 30, 2010, 08:30:26 AM


How much is the Playstation Move gonna be?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 30, 2010, 09:29:17 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on July 30, 2010, 10:11:25 AM
still pretty expensive considering you'll buy a nunchuk thingy too
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on July 30, 2010, 01:54:03 PM
still pretty expensive considering you'll buy a nunchuk thingy too

Nintendo Sony is a retail genious.   :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on August 04, 2010, 04:23:59 PM
How long do you folks think it will take before everybody comes to their senses and stops with this motion nonsense?

I give it the standard Microsoft Xbox peripheral lifespan of two months.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 04, 2010, 04:56:36 PM
hopefully Kinect will be the wet fish slap the public needs to realise all this farty wiidiculous arm flailing is wrong, go do a proper sport!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 04, 2010, 05:53:37 PM
How long do you folks think it will take before everybody comes to their senses and stops with this motion nonsense?

I give it the standard Microsoft Xbox peripheral lifespan of two months.

Two weeks tops.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 04, 2010, 11:03:16 PM
How long do you folks think it will take before everybody comes to their senses and stops with this motion nonsense?

I give it the standard Microsoft Xbox peripheral lifespan of two months.

From a business perspective, I'd say Microsoft probably has a development & marketing future investment of at least 2 years in Kinect.  If they haven't turned a profit by the end of 2012 (and the world hasn't ended), they'll probably scrap it.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on August 07, 2010, 06:44:27 PM
From the response I sense in my local GAME shop, And the "less" educated gamer, I believe that Kinect will be a success. My son has already mentioned it along with his new Xbox he will be getting at Xmas, And I have never talked to him about Kinect, A lot of his friends have told me about the awesomeness of it and they are only 6 or 7.
 A friend of mine at work was only telling me the other day of a " New" product by Xbox called Kinect, And how it was going to change the gaming landscape, I listened for a good 10 mins on how Kinect worked, Without telling him how I knew about it over a year ago.
  I think Microsoft know who they are targeting Kinect at. As long as it does not interfere with the so called "hardcore" games, then I have no problem with Kinect. I will not be buying it myself, But if my son takes a big enough interested in it then I will get it for him.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 07, 2010, 06:48:28 PM
tis aimed at 7yo's then and random people in work who don't game, but like new tech.

atleast we have Reach, CoD7, MoH, Dead Space 2, Flopout: Vegas and Gears 3. The casuals can have Kinect and Fable 3  8)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on August 07, 2010, 07:04:21 PM
tis aimed at 7yo's then and random people in work who don't game, but like new tech.

atleast we have Reach, CoD7, MoH, Dead Space 2, Flopout: Vegas and Gears 3. The casuals can have Kinect and Fable 3  8)

Exactly.  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 08, 2010, 06:51:23 AM
Move will be more successfull and both will still sell less than the Wii.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on August 08, 2010, 09:27:51 AM
I don't care what anyone says i am looking forward to kinect and if that means i'm not a hardcore gamer then so be it.  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 08, 2010, 09:48:16 AM
I don't care what anyone says i am looking forward to kinect and if that means i'm not a hardcore gamer then so be it.  :P

I've cancelled my preorder so I can remain Hardcore.   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 08, 2010, 01:55:25 PM
I'm buying it for the functionality, not the games.

But since there probably won't be any worthy games to play on it until next year, I'll probably wait and buy a used unit at that time.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on August 08, 2010, 04:09:49 PM
I'm with Neato in that the tech is interesting, except that I won't be buying it for anything more than $30. A price that I think it will achieve, based on how quickly the Live Vision Camera bombed and made it to the bargain bins.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on August 09, 2010, 06:06:48 AM
I've got a live vision camera-never use it.Only time it did get used was when I played Burnout Paradise for the pictures when I got taken/took someone down!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on August 09, 2010, 09:30:20 AM
I think kinect is better than the live vision camera, if they can advertise it right it should do well. I mean it's basically a wii with hd graphics and better tech, so if the wii is so popular why can't something thats even better do well? I know the price may be a sticking point but that will most likely get reduced after a short while.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 09, 2010, 01:34:07 PM
Kinect Patent Says It Can Read Sign Language

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/08/500x_asl.jpg)

The patent for Microsoft's motion-sensing camera Kinect was released to the public last week, and while we knew most of the stuff contained within, I'd be lying if I said I knew the device could recognise sign language.

But it does. At least, according to the patent it does (things may have changed since, we're checking), as it says that thanks to Kinect's ability to track hand and arm gestures, it can understand somebody signing at it in American Sign Language, and then convert it to either text or spoken word.

A neat feature! It might be totally useless to most of you, but anything that can improve the accessibility of games - and do it as seamlessly as allowing someone to sign at their TV - is a welcome step forward nonetheless.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 09, 2010, 01:36:34 PM
250GB Kinect Bundle Spotted

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/08/500x_250gb-xbox-kinect-bundle-short-b.jpg)

Microsoft's controller-free Kinect platform is getting a 4GB bundle that comes with an Xbox 360, 4GB of memory, a Kinect sensor, a game and a controller. That doesn't look like the only bundle.

The Australian packaging for the 4GB bundle shows what appears to be a 250GB bundle that comes with a 250GB hard drive and a headset.

The console in the 4GB bundle has a matte finish, while the console for the 250GB bundle has a glossy finish.

The packaging for the 250GB also notes this, "Hard Drive includes game and demos."

Kotaku is following up with Microsoft.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 09, 2010, 01:47:08 PM
sign language eh? then they could make a game/app to teach you sign language ... atleast Americaland Sign Language atleast.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 09, 2010, 06:41:35 PM
There was an interesting discussion in the xbox.com forums about the possibilities of adapting Kinect for "able" gamers.

There may not be a huge market for such a feature, but there is definitely a worthy market that is just waiting to profess their loyalty to the company that can offer them what every other company denies them.

Good on ya, Microsoft.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 09, 2010, 06:48:45 PM
if you can sign language you can hold a pad ....
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 11, 2010, 04:41:48 AM
Kinect Downgraded To Save Money, Can't Read Sign Language

The patent for Microsoft's motion-sensing camera Kinect suggested that the device could understand American Sign Language. Well, it can't. At least, the version going on sale in November can't.

Responding to the claims made in the patent, Microsoft has told Kotaku "We are excited about the potential of Kinect and its potential to impact gaming and entertainment. Microsoft files lots of patent applications to protect our intellectual property, not all of which are brought to market right away. Kinect that is shipping this holiday will not support sign language."

So why did the patent suggest it could? Well, sources close to the evolution of Kinect's development tell us it's because the version of the hardware that'll be available later this year isn't as capable as was originally intended.

The original Kinect had a much higher resolution (over twice that of the final model's 320x240), and as such, was able to not only recognise the limbs of a player as the current model version can, but their fingers as well (which the current version can't). And when the hardware could recognise fingers, it would have been able to read sign language.

But that capability came at a cost, and while Microsoft had always intended Kinect to sell for $150, "dumbing down" the camera would have meant that Microsoft wouldn't be losing as much money on each unit sold, an important point should Kinect prove to be a failure. So dumb it down they did, reducing the camera's resolution (which in turn reduced the number of appendages it'd have to track) and placing the burden for some of the device's processing on the console and not Kinect's own hardware.

This probably isn't the first time you've heard such a rumour, but this latest time at least explains why Kinect can't read sign language!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 11, 2010, 09:23:20 AM
Screw you, "abled" gamers.   :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 13, 2010, 12:11:33 PM
Can the Playstation Eye already do what Kinect does? (http://www.myce.com/news/can-the-playstation-eye-already-do-what-xbox-kinect-does-33111/)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 13, 2010, 12:43:31 PM
Can the Playstation Eye already do what Kinect does? (http://www.myce.com/news/can-the-playstation-eye-already-do-what-xbox-kinect-does-33111/)

Interesting.  Although, the article is simply comparing hardware specs.  The hardward doesn't determine the device's capabilities, the software does.

I do think the PS Eye could do what Kinect does easily, if the player was wearing a mocap suit.  That's the whole appeal of Kinect.  It's mocap without a mocap suit.

(http://www.naturalpoint.com/optitrack/images/mocap-suit-pose.jpg)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: NeuroticSarge on August 14, 2010, 01:39:23 AM
Here's a question.Is sign language the same in every country?
I mean,is the sign for thank you the same in the UK as in say,Russia?
Always wondered that.
Is it a universal language?If so,we should all learn it so we can tell the foreign idiots to feck off over my live cam! ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 15, 2010, 12:38:26 PM
Here's a question.Is sign language the same in every country?
I mean,is the sign for thank you the same in the UK as in say,Russia?
Always wondered that.
Is it a universal language?If so,we should all learn it so we can tell the foreign idiots to feck off over my live cam! ;D

There is an "International Sign" that's used as a sort of basic communication among most countries.  Stuff like "where is the bathroom?" and "hello / goodby".

But most languages have their own distinct sign language variant.  Most sign languages evolved within each culture the same way verbal language did.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on August 15, 2010, 09:31:08 PM
Here's a question.Is sign language the same in every country?
I mean,is the sign for thank you the same in the UK as in say,Russia?
Always wondered that.
Is it a universal language?If so,we should all learn it so we can tell the foreign idiots to feck off over my live cam! ;D

There is an "International Sign" that's used as a sort of basic communication among most countries.  Stuff like "where is the bathroom?" and "hello / goodby".

But most languages have their own distinct sign language variant.  Most sign languages evolved within each culture the same way verbal language did.


Thanks Neatopedia
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 15, 2010, 11:27:37 PM
I went out with a German girl for a short bit who had a deaf brother.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 16, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
must be tough for him, not only is he deaf but also German ... 2 disabilites :(

2 World Wars, 1 World Cup :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 16, 2010, 01:51:55 PM
*ouch!

I felt that sting from here.   :D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on August 18, 2010, 10:40:45 AM
(http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/thegurglingcod/images/2008/02/12/the_more_you_know2.jpg)

Quote
Thanks Neatopedia
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on August 20, 2010, 08:27:22 AM
Rare has yet to reveal all the minigames it will be including in Kinect Sports, but told OXM that there will be some "for when you've got back from the pub".
The plan is to have something for people who "just want to play games", said the firm's Nick Burton. You won't have to set anything up, the box does it all for you, apparently.

He wouldn't tell us any further details. The firm had football and javelin-throwing on display at Microsoft's Cologne showcase, having previously only showed them in an E3 video. Still to come is boxing, which we're told is particularly special.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 20, 2010, 09:34:36 AM
Until gets some solid game franchises behind it, I wish they'd stop talking about Kinect's games.  It's a major turnoff.

Just tell me how cool the tech is, and what it will be able to do a year from now.   ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on August 20, 2010, 10:51:19 AM
well i can't wait to get my hands on kinect sports, so there  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on August 20, 2010, 12:34:52 PM
well i can't wait to get my hands on kinect sports, so there  :P

You can Kinect your hands on my sports anytime!!! :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 20, 2010, 12:45:04 PM
Just tell me how cool the tech is, and what it will be able to do a year from now.   ;)

Right, here goes.......

The tech is pretty good I guess but nothing that we haven't already seen before and in a years time after numerous updates and patches Kinect will be holding it's own, at the bottom of bargain bins worldwide.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 20, 2010, 10:25:13 PM
well i can't wait to get my hands on kinect sports, so there  :P

You can Kinect your hands on my sports anytime!!! :P
o for fux sakes im sick of this
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on August 21, 2010, 01:24:49 AM
well i can't wait to get my hands on kinect sports, so there  :P

You can Kinect your hands on my sports anytime!!! :P
o for fux sakes im sick of this

lol
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 21, 2010, 03:54:21 AM
Fizz is gonna beat dfuzz up for sporting his kinect everywhere :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 21, 2010, 09:20:28 AM
Fizz is gonna beat dfuzz up for sporting his kinect everywhere :P
enuff all ready lol
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: markav on August 27, 2010, 05:06:24 AM
Kinect beta begins, new dashboard screens leaked (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=262000)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 27, 2010, 05:10:01 AM
I still have less than zero interest.  :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 30, 2010, 03:52:36 PM
Rare suggests "Killer Instinct Kinect"
"Never say never" on classic remakes

Rare's Nick Burton has teased that the company might do a Kinect version of classic fighting game Killer Instinct.

A remake of Killer Instinct, which Rare created as an arcade release for Midway and later appeared on N64, has been demanded by a small and mental section of the Rare fanbase for years. We don't imagine that Kinect functionality figured high on the wishlist, but Senior Software Engineer Burton brought it up in a recent interview.

Asked if the company would return to its archives for a future game, as it did with Perfect Dark Zero and Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, he was evasive.

"We're continually, always looking at what we're going to do next," he told us at Gamescom. "There's a heap of stuff that we're looking at right now, so never say never. It might be an Xbox Live Arcade game, it might be a Kinect Xbox Live Arcade game or it could be a massive opus. You'd have to get inside the mind of our Creative Director, George Andreas to find out."

Asked if Killer Instinct would return, he said "Maybe Killer Instinct Kinect." Would it work? "You'd have to play our boxing game and decide if you think it would."

Said boxing game features in one of the company's current projects, Kinect Sports, which will release alongside Kinect in November. We won't hold our breath for Killer Instinct.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 30, 2010, 03:59:51 PM
will it make you even tempted to get kinect hhmmmm....
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: citatscEellE on August 30, 2010, 04:02:13 PM
i just want the dancing game thing Dance Central and bust some moves :D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 30, 2010, 04:03:23 PM
will it make you even tempted to get kinect hhmmmm....

Nope, I don't think anything could tempt me to get Kinect at the moment, the games shown and the games mentioned most certainly don't.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on August 30, 2010, 04:13:23 PM
will it make you even tempted to get kinect hhmmmm....

Nope, I don't think anything could tempt me to get Kinect at the moment, the games shown and the games mentioned most certainly don't.

Each to their own. And you can keep yours  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 30, 2010, 04:20:14 PM
will it make you even tempted to get kinect hhmmmm....

Nope, I don't think anything could tempt me to get Kinect at the moment, the games shown and the games mentioned most certainly don't.
aww u dont want a pet p*ssy(lion people , lion)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 30, 2010, 04:22:56 PM
will it make you even tempted to get kinect hhmmmm....

Nope, I don't think anything could tempt me to get Kinect at the moment, the games shown and the games mentioned most certainly don't.
aww u dont want a pet p*ssy(lion people , lion)

Not unless the lion or whatever can actually kill people, but even that wouldn't tempt me, I can do that myself.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 30, 2010, 04:29:30 PM
you scare me at times
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 30, 2010, 05:16:22 PM
seeing as dfuzz randomly posted halo is poop ..
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kinect is poop
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 30, 2010, 05:21:10 PM
well i like the look of it :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on August 30, 2010, 05:31:52 PM
seeing as dfuzz randomly posted halo is poop ..
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kinect is poop

 ;D

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 30, 2010, 05:47:41 PM
whatever
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on August 30, 2010, 06:44:12 PM
well i like the look of it :P

cos me and you have taste  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 30, 2010, 06:54:19 PM
fizz's taste is questionable :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 31, 2010, 04:40:56 PM
fizz's taste is questionable :P
yes ur right- i like you for some reason-very questionable
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on August 31, 2010, 04:55:07 PM
fizz's taste is questionable :P
yes ur right- i like you for some reason-very questionable

for lunch, damn cannibals get everywhere nowadays!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on August 31, 2010, 05:11:39 PM
fizz's taste is questionable :P
yes ur right- i like you for some reason-very questionable

for lunch, damn cannibals get everywhere nowadays!!
i have had my orders not to answer that how i was going to
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on September 08, 2010, 05:05:57 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on September 08, 2010, 08:12:39 AM
130 quid is not a bad price, im definatly going to get dave one for xmas, been looking at the games , and im looking forward to the star wars games and the keep fit one
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: citatscEellE on September 08, 2010, 02:04:06 PM
im not really sold on the Kinnect, the only game i like is the Dance Central..
i dont really pay alot of money a peice of junk ill prolly use like 8 times outta the year..
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on September 08, 2010, 03:18:45 PM
im not really sold on the Kinnect, the only game i like is the Dance Central..
i dont really pay alot of money a peice of junk ill prolly use like 8 times outta the year..

Nice to see your on the 'let's all hate kinect' band wagon. I am counting down the days to xmas i can't wait to get my hands on kinect, really looking forward to beating my daughter on kinect sports!  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: citatscEellE on September 08, 2010, 04:36:35 PM
im not really sold on the Kinnect, the only game i like is the Dance Central..
i dont really pay alot of money a peice of junk ill prolly use like 8 times outta the year..

Nice to see your on the 'let's all hate kinect' band wagon. I am counting down the days to xmas i can't wait to get my hands on kinect, really looking forward to beating my daughter on kinect sports!  ;D
im not on the "hate the kinnect" band wagon, just that im not totally convinced about this.
all its games are just like the Wii ones. I have a Wii, its like (to me) buying the same games over and over
plus after ive literally danced my ass off in dance central, ill prolly never use it. or barely use it..
i just want my 150$ worth outta it :/
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on September 08, 2010, 05:16:06 PM
buy $150 of proper games instead :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: citatscEellE on September 08, 2010, 05:17:28 PM
buy $150 of proper games instead :)
dur..

p.s: dont eat my fear :'(
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on September 08, 2010, 05:18:03 PM
buy $150 of proper games instead :)
dur..

p.s: dont eat my fear :'(

can i lick it ?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: citatscEellE on September 08, 2010, 05:34:23 PM
buy $150 of proper games instead :)
dur..

p.s: dont eat my fear :'(

can i lick it ?

no >.>;
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on September 08, 2010, 06:53:30 PM
enough of the licking already lol
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on September 08, 2010, 07:05:05 PM
im not really sold on the Kinnect, the only game i like is the Dance Central..
i dont really pay alot of money a peice of junk ill prolly use like 8 times outta the year..

Nice to see your on the 'let's all hate kinect' band wagon. I am counting down the days to xmas i can't wait to get my hands on kinect, really looking forward to beating my daughter on kinect sports!  ;D
im not on the "hate the kinnect" band wagon, just that im not totally convinced about this.
all its games are just like the Wii ones. I have a Wii, its like (to me) buying the same games over and over
plus after ive literally danced my ass off in dance central, ill prolly never use it. or barely use it..
i just want my 150$ worth outta it :/

Sorry my mistake. Just when you call something a 'piece of junk' it usually means you hate it  ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on September 08, 2010, 07:32:44 PM
The 360 is a piece of junk, but I don't hate it. 

Well the old ones are what with all the bloody problems, new ones are much better.   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on September 08, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
The 360 is a piece of junk, but I don't hate it. 

Well the old ones are what with all the bloody problems, new ones are much better.   :)
way better finally got rid of the rrod-fingers crossed
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on September 16, 2010, 03:24:57 PM
Sega has announced Rise of Nightmares for Kinect at Tokyo Games Show.
It'll be a serious survival horror game, which is surprising because it's not an area Sega specialises in and survival horror doesn't seem like the most appropriate genre for Kinect.

Yet it is very much a 'serious' survival horror game, so colour us intrigued.

Rise of Nightmares is scheduled for release next year.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on September 16, 2010, 03:29:36 PM
Can't wait   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on September 16, 2010, 03:31:01 PM
Sega has announced Rise of Nightmares for Kinect at Tokyo Games Show.
It'll be a serious survival horror game, which is surprising because it's not an area Sega specialises in and survival horror doesn't seem like the most appropriate genre for Kinect.

Yet it is very much a 'serious' survival horror game, so colour us intrigued.

Rise of Nightmares is scheduled for release next year.

maybe the first of a possible wave of kinect games aimed at an adult audience? hopefully. And hopefully playable sat down too, i don't mind standing for the casual kinect games but if it's story driven i'm gonna wanna sit to play
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on September 23, 2010, 01:25:51 PM
Rumour: Project Milo cancelled

Peter Molyneux's controversial Kinect game Project Milo has been cancelled, sources have claimed.

Development on Lionhead's motion-sensing relationship simulation was officially halted yesterday, with "19 contractors" let go, according to a source claiming to be close to the situation.

Two teams will now focus on the Fable franchise, Eurogamer was told. According to our source, the old Milo team will reuse the Milo tech for a "Fable themed Kinect game".

So far Microsoft and Lionhead have refused to comment on the claim, but we're working on that.

The news comes as some surprise. Only last month Molyneux told Eurogamer Project Milo was on.

"Of course!," he said when asked whether we'll be able to buy it in the shops at some point in the future. "I wouldn't be working on it if I didn't hope that to be true, yes."

In July Molyneux admitted he finds it "insanely hard" to convince others of the validity of his new game ideas before they're realised.

UPDATE: Microsoft and Lionhead have responded to Eurogamer's enquiries with the standard: "Microsoft does not comment on rumour or speculation."


They also don't negotiate with terrorists.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on September 23, 2010, 02:06:59 PM
good, im glad the little sod was beginning to creep me out
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: markav on September 27, 2010, 11:28:20 AM
Just had this message from a friend:

I've just played Kinect! I'm at a business centre near east midlands airport and MS are in the meeting room next to me doing demos to game shop employees (game/pc world, etc).

I walked past the room and noticed it was empty apart from a couple of MS guys. I popped my head around the door and asked if I could have a go. They said no at first, but said I was welcome to have a look. The kinect camera is about twice as big as I'd thought it would be. I asked him how bad the lag was, to which he got quite defensive. So defensive, he shut the blinds, locked the door and let me have a go! I played a few levels of kinect adventures. Great, great fun and minimal lag.

It's a yes from me!





There you go, "a word of mouth" review.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on September 27, 2010, 11:35:05 AM
awesome- whens mine coming  :D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on September 27, 2010, 11:43:15 AM
Still a big fat no for me, and that will be my outlook on it for the rest of eternity, so about 3 years.   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: markav on September 27, 2010, 01:27:49 PM
No killer games- no purchase
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on September 27, 2010, 01:35:11 PM
No killer games- no purchase

Steel Battalions is making a return...that should be awesome
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on September 27, 2010, 01:39:15 PM
craigs just a miserable sod lol-but i love him really  :-* i really want one, btw october 15th- i get my xbox yaaaayayayay
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on September 27, 2010, 07:06:21 PM
No killer games- no purchase

loads of potential killer kinect games were announced recently, i can't wait to get mine.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: markav on September 28, 2010, 05:03:51 AM
No killer games- no purchase

loads of potential killer kinect games were announced recently, i can't wait to get mine.
"Potential"
Time will tell
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on September 28, 2010, 06:21:13 AM
Every game shown so far does indeed have the potential to kill Kinect, I agree.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on September 28, 2010, 08:46:40 AM
Every game shown so far does indeed have the potential to kill Kinect, I agree.   ;D

just cos your too lazy to stand up when gaming doesn't mean kinect will be sh*t, just means that you are lazy!  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on September 28, 2010, 09:10:09 AM
Every game shown so far does indeed have the potential to kill Kinect, I agree.   ;D

just cos your too lazy to stand up when gaming doesn't mean kinect will be sh*t, just means that you are lazy!  :P
he's not lazy , its just that standing up and moving will mean he will have beer spillage lol x
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on October 06, 2010, 06:25:08 AM
Better Clear Some Space For Kinect (http://kotaku.com/5656638/better-clear-some-space-for-kinect-or-move-house)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on October 06, 2010, 08:58:32 AM
Better Clear Some Space For Kinect (http://kotaku.com/5656638/better-clear-some-space-for-kinect-or-move-house)

Our living room is just about big enough, thankfully.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: citatscEellE on October 11, 2010, 01:11:56 PM
the kinnect feels like the wii it makes me sad, i wanted to buy it :(
i got to play it (along with a crapload of games) it feels like deja vu all over again esp with kinnect sports.
dance central was badass..dancing to poker face was awesome..

what games are you guys gonna buy w/ the kinnect?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on October 11, 2010, 01:58:52 PM


what games are you guys gonna buy w/ the kinnect?

Steel Battlions...going to be awwwesome!

Any attempt to remake the controller for this game is a must have...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaiHZcr1BJ0


Mech's rulz
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 04, 2010, 07:19:11 AM
Milo "was never a product" - Microsoft

Microsoft has insisted Peter Molyneux's rumoured to be cancelled Kinect title Project Milo "was never a product" and "was never announced as a game".

In September Eurogamer brought you the news that the controversial Kinect relationship simulator, revealed at E3 2009, had been cancelled.

We were told the Milo team were to use the Milo tech for a Fable-themed Kinect game.

The news followed months of pubic to-ing and fro-ing between Lionhead boss Molyneux and Microsoft over Project Milo's status as a game that would eventually be released.

"Of course!" Molyneux said in August when asked whether we'll be able to buy it in the shops at some point in the future. "I wouldn't be working on it if I didn't hope that to be true, yes."

Today, however, Microsoft said Project Milo never stood a chance of hitting shop shelves.

"Milo was never announced as a game," Alex Kipman, Microsoft's director of incubation and creator of Kinect, told GamesIndustry.biz.

"Peter Molyneux is probably one of the most amazing people I've had the pleasure of collaborating with. So, there's the world of creating paint colours and paintbrushes - that's me. Then there's the world of creating pictures based on these paint colours and paintbrushes - that's Peter Molyneux, it's a give and take. It's a partnership.

"Peter comes to me and says, you know what Alex, there are these stories I've always wanted to tell, if only I had these paint colours and paintbrushes. And I say to Peter, 'I have a new selection of paints and paintbrushes - what can you paint with it?'

"You see how these things interchange with each other and then collectively we come up with these transformational, revolutionary experiences. Milo was a sandbox. In this world of creating experiences I used voice, gestures, identity together. Milo was the sandbox which allowed us to define how to do these experiences, and what you saw was a transformational experience where you got a level of emotional connection unlike anything you had seen before."

For fans of Project Milo, however, all is not lost. Kipman said the tech behind it can be seen in Kinect launch title Kinectimals.

"Now, where has Milo gone? It was never really a product," he said. "I will tell you that the technology developed in that sandbox, and by the way we continue to develop technologies in that sandbox, has migrated pretty closely to what you see in a game called Kinectimals.

"Kinectimals is about creating an emotional, deep relationship between you and this tiger cub. It uses identity, knows who you are. It actually reacts differently when you walk in front of it, because it's your tiger, than when I walk in front of it, because it doesn't know me. It uses voice, so that you can interact with it and play with it, it uses gestures and essentially moves you to this deep adventure on an island where you're finding the secret of a pirate in much the same way as a traditional adventure type game.

"This is one of what I would say was one of the key innovations, that captured people's minds with Milo - this idea that we could create an emotion engine, an engine that would fuse these human input behaviours and create a relationship with this imaginary character. What I think you see in Kinectimals is precisely that."

With Kinect now out in the US, reviews are starting to pour in. Keza awarded Kinectimals 7/10 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-04-kinectimals-review) for Eurogamer.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 04, 2010, 07:24:01 AM
MS: Hybrid control 360 games coming

On the day of Kinect's US launch, Microsoft has confirmed that games that combine motion control with traditional controller input are in the works.

Games that utilise "hybrid" control methods exist, Microsoft told GamesIndustry.biz.

"We'll continue to have controller-only games," said Alex Kipman, the brain behind the development of Kinect.

"We love controller-free games, we love Kinect experiences and we'll continue to grow our set of those as well. What we haven't really talked about, but exist, are hybrid games.

"Games that are using the controller, which we know and love, and pieces, if not all, of the Kinect experiences to again make those experiences more immersive, more fun and more emotionally connected."

Kipman's comments came amid a discussion about the future of traditionally controlled games.

Coming to the conclusion that the controller will not disappear altogether, Kipman predicted "a world which allows all to exist".

"This is where I look at the world, and I know it's easier to look at the world and talk about 'or', but I look at the world and I talk about 'and'. It's about how we take all of these things and fuse all of them together to create unique experiences. This is when I go speak and spend time with creative folk around the industry. I go back and I talk about palette," Kipman said.

"It doesn't always mean using the same colours, the same paintbrushes - the stories you tell are about using the appropriate combinations of all of the colours and brushes to create something meaningful."

In August Rare's Kinect development director Nick Burton suggested some possible Kinect/pad hybrid gameplay mechanics to Eurogamer.

"Camera control without having to consciously control it? At the moment when you play Halo you have to control the camera with a thumb stick. What if you didn't? What if you're shouting grenade? You're not going to find the grenade button. The grenade button's still there, but..."



Looks like Microshaft realise they need buttons too, I wonder what KB thinks about all this?   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 04, 2010, 07:32:13 AM
so milo was never planned, so why did they bother with the art work, advertising and so forth for it, dont get that one, was kinda looking forward to having a child that did as it was told  :D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 04, 2010, 07:40:49 AM
so milo was never planned, so why did they bother with the art work, advertising and so forth for it, dont get that one, was kinda looking forward to having a child that did as it was told  :D

There was never any advertising, they just showed it at E3 last year and everyone went mental, I said back then that it was only a tech demo and nobody listened, I was right.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 04, 2010, 07:48:09 AM
oh come on when do we ever listen lol

btw will let u of this time  :-*
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/report-project-milo-cancelled (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/report-project-milo-cancelled)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 04, 2010, 07:50:15 AM
Old news  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 04, 2010, 07:50:50 AM
i said sorry  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 04, 2010, 08:08:39 AM
CVG Kinect Review (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=273523)

I especially like this part:

* Kinect is not for you if... you intend to play it your bedroom. Unless you're Prince Harry, you almost certainly won't have the space. (If you're reading, your Highness, Just Say No.)

* Kinect is not for you if... physical exertion is an issue. As already described, it's likely to exhaust you - especially in those eager first few hours.

* Kinect is not for you if... you're the sort of illogical, sticky-pad crank who refuses to entertain technology also enjoyed by housewives. (If so, may I recommend you consider chucking out your microwave. Warning: You may have to warm your Rustler's burgers on a radiator as a result.)



I'm an illogical, sticky pad crank, never have I been so proud!    ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 04, 2010, 08:13:40 AM
nope-your just weird, but tis why i love u lol x right im off u playin gears tonight
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 04, 2010, 08:22:10 AM
nope-your just weird, but tis why i love u lol x right im off u playin gears tonight

Might do, though brand new Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother and double Phone Shop are on tonight so i'll most likely watch those.


Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 04, 2010, 08:49:38 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 04, 2010, 12:16:27 PM
nope-your just weird, but tis why i love u lol x right im off u playin gears tonight

Might do, though brand new Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother and double Phone Shop are on tonight so i'll most likely watch those.





oh for gods sakes, please  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 05, 2010, 06:18:41 AM
some good reviews there as i expected really, i new kinectimals would be a good title, same for dance central and kinect sports, a shame about joyride think i will give that one a miss. the tech is new and like a new console the games will get better over time, the next wave are already looking interesting.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 05, 2010, 10:52:37 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 05, 2010, 11:24:50 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on November 05, 2010, 04:26:25 PM
So Kinect is great tech (with the right space) but not the games. Although Dance Central sounds good.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Maibs on November 06, 2010, 08:36:16 AM
Microsoft not happy over the $2,000 Kinect hacking reward

Kinect launched this past week and like any new tech product, people want to hack the thing. Specifically, Adafruit Industries is looking for people to create an open source driver for Kinect and is offering a $2,000 reward to the first developer that does it.

To the surprise of no one, Microsoft isn't all too happy over these shenanigans and stated that they have "built in numerous hardware and software safeguards designed to reduce the chances of product tampering." Microsoft goes on to say that they will be working with law enforcement to keep to keep the Kinect "tamper-resistant."

I give it about a month before we can use the Kinect on a PC.

Microsoft furious at $2,000 bounty for open source Kinect drivers [Tech Eye]
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 07, 2010, 09:04:53 AM
Online Kinect stock levels (http://xboxhome.co.uk/news2596/Kinect-Already-OUTSOLD-Everywhere-apart-from....html)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on November 07, 2010, 09:44:12 AM
Some dude and his wife are doing vid reviews of all the Kinect jazz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbjHID2T4ro

They review Fighter Uncaged, Dance Central, Kinectimals, and the fitness game Your Shape (or whatever it is called). The vids are a bit long for my taste, but they give a good impartial opinion on what they think of the games.

From what I've heard so far the tech is pretty nifty and works pretty well, but the games aren't really there (except for Kinectimals if you have kids, or Dance Central if you have boobs. And I guess that Sonic game is decent). It seems that for us harder-core gamers the best thing to come out of the Kinect will be all of the videos of people breaking their televisions and ceiling fans.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Jaynestown on November 07, 2010, 10:10:52 AM
Online Kinect stock levels (http://xboxhome.co.uk/news2596/Kinect-Already-OUTSOLD-Everywhere-apart-from....html)

Oh bugger, no Minect for us then Craig!  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 07, 2010, 10:18:05 AM
Online Kinect stock levels (http://xboxhome.co.uk/news2596/Kinect-Already-OUTSOLD-Everywhere-apart-from....html)

Oh bugger, no Minect for us then Craig!  ;D

It's alright mate, i've got it pre-ordered at each of those stores, one for each tv in my house.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 07, 2010, 03:23:11 PM
Microsoft not happy over the $2,000 Kinect hacking reward

Kinect launched this past week and like any new tech product, people want to hack the thing. Specifically, Adafruit Industries is looking for people to create an open source driver for Kinect and is offering a $2,000 reward to the first developer that does it.

To the surprise of no one, Microsoft isn't all too happy over these shenanigans and stated that they have "built in numerous hardware and software safeguards designed to reduce the chances of product tampering." Microsoft goes on to say that they will be working with law enforcement to keep to keep the Kinect "tamper-resistant."

I give it about a month before we can use the Kinect on a PC.

Microsoft furious at $2,000 bounty for open source Kinect drivers [Tech Eye]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkODbZwGinQ
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 08, 2010, 08:19:08 AM
Sony takes not-so-subtle swipe at Kinect (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=273577)

Sadly no KB involved in this one  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on November 09, 2010, 11:10:13 AM
From what I've heard so far the tech is pretty nifty and works pretty well, but the games aren't really there ...

Instead of trying to build 'core' games around Kinect, they need to integrate Kinect into tried-and-true 'core' gameplay.  Keep the controller in your hands, but accompany voice-commands & gestures to enhance the immersion.

Example:  Mass Effect 3 - direct your squad by name & action instead of using the pause-and-play system in place.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 09, 2010, 11:17:50 AM
From what I've heard so far the tech is pretty nifty and works pretty well, but the games aren't really there ...

Instead of trying to build 'core' games around Kinect, they need to integrate Kinect into tried-and-true 'core' gameplay.  Keep the controller in your hands, but accompany voice-commands & gestures to enhance the immersion.

Example:  Mass Effect 3 - direct your squad by name & action instead of using the pause-and-play system in place.


Like Sony are doing, it's all about buttons  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 09, 2010, 12:37:43 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on November 09, 2010, 02:13:05 PM
Kinect is Racist?  (KKKinect) (http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/reviewers-notice-microsoft-kinect-doesnt/)

You're at a family get-together. Relatives you haven't seen in years are all gathered to celebrate four generations of familial unity. You whip out your Nikon Coolpix S630 digital camera to mark the occasion. Luckily, its facial-recognition software helps capture that perfectly poignant moment. You snap a photo and a notification pops up. "Did someone blink?" A helpful box appears over the offending party. She didn't blink. She's Asian (http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1954643,00.html).

You're working at a computer shop. Every week, new technology comes flooding in, replacing the old. Displays must be set up so that customers may test out the revolutionary products and decide if it's worth their time. Among the hands-on products is a Hewlett-Packard webcam with facial-recognition software which allows the lens to follow the user and keep centered in the frame. For your coworker, it performs perfectly -- panning and zooming when necessary. Unfortunately for you, it doesn't pan. It doesn't zoom. It can't recognize your face. Why? You're black (http://gizmodo.com/5431190/hp-face+tracking-webcams-dont-recognize-black-people).

And so it goes for the new Microsoft Kinect -- a motion-detecting peripheral for the Xbox 360 which allows players to control on-screen action via 3D motion capture, facial recognition, and voice commands. And like Nokia cameras and HP webcams, it doesn't work so well with dark-skinned gamers.

Gamespot noticed the issue (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6283514.html) during a product review when two of its employees had trouble being recognized by the camera sensors. One had "inconsistent" success, the other wasn't identified at all despite numerous recalibration attempts. Light-skinned employees had no difficulty with the facial-recognition system.

Gamespot's Brendan Sinclair had this to say about the device:


It's important to note that the problems were only experienced with the system's facial recognition feature, and don't prevent users from playing Kinect games. Skeletal tracking, a primary means of controlling games with Kinect, appeared to work the same for all GameSpot employees.

The system's inability to recognize a user only means that he or she would need to sign in manually, and some games' features may not work properly as a result. For example, when a second player joins in to Kinect Adventures during the title's drop-in, drop-out multiplayer, the system can't bring up that player's proper in-game avatar automatically if it can't identify the new user first.


While Kinect's lack of racial sensitivity is grabbing the headlines, another act of discrimination seems to be buried. In order for the peripheral to work properly, a minimum distance of six feet -- eight feet for multiplayer -- is necessary. Ever see a dorm or an efficiency apartment have that much free space?

Sorry college students and New Yorkers.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 09, 2010, 02:15:35 PM
oh dear, better get patching boys
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on November 09, 2010, 02:19:48 PM
damn, it's because of the technology but your gonna be gutted if you get Kinect and it doesn't recognise you.

Christmas is a high time for suicides; 'I feel like i don't exist' 'Perhaps some Kinect will cheer me up' KINECT DOES NOT RECOGNISE YOU OR THINS YOUR SCENERY' (queue long drop and short rope).

Kinect = Suicide AMG!  :o
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 09, 2010, 02:27:56 PM
ha ha lol xx
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 11, 2010, 08:51:07 AM
Leona Lewis launches Kinect with her voice, which ironically is something you can't do, shame nobody queued up to give the oxygen thief another smack, but you can't have everything can you?   ;D

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/500x_leona.jpg)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 14, 2010, 12:48:58 PM
i now own kinect thanks to fizz for giving me my 30th birthday present early, as my actual birthday is on xmas day. The tech is amazing, kinect adventures is great fun especially with my daughter. it's very accurate once you have dialled it in with the kinect tuner interface and the lag is very minimal (miliseconds, hardly noticeable) and they are patching and updating it in the new year to improve the accuracy and  response times and improve the voice and gesture controls. Once they have done this  it will go from being great to excellent and the second wave of games look like they are gonna take kinect to the next level in terms of gameplay, creativity and adult content. I am over the moon with it and i went and bought kinect sports today which i am gonna play with my daughter tonight, who incidentally bloody adores the thing, i will review both games in full in a couple of weeks but my first impressions are really good and i know that the kinect experience is just gonna get better and better over the next twelve to eighteen months i the same way that the xbox 360 experience did and is still doing, so thanks for my pressie fizz!!  :-*  :-*
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on November 14, 2010, 12:49:53 PM
knew you'd like it, you big kid!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 14, 2010, 01:28:20 PM
Whether it improves or not in the next 18 months depends on the top devs I guess, some aren't bothered about embracing Kinect while others are.  Still less than zero interest in it for me but i'm glad you like it mate.   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 15, 2010, 07:43:38 AM
just wanna say quickly that kinect sports is amazing and way better than any motion control game i have ever played, and i used to own a wii. it's full of tiny nuances in control and you are able to put varying spin on the ball as in real life during table tennis and bowling, put curve on the ball when taking a free kick in football and hit the ball at varying speeds and angles during the excellent beach volleyball. i was amazed how accurate and nuanced the controls were, and it's much better as a game than the fun kinect adventures. lag is also minimal and barely noticeable. only problem now is i am aching in places i didn't even know i had and i was sweating profusely after 30 mins, maybe playing for 4 hours was a mistake lol. at this rate i am gonna be in great shape before i know it and without even trying!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on November 15, 2010, 12:16:46 PM
your enthusiasm is infectuous .... damn you Dfuzz
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 15, 2010, 12:42:21 PM
your enthusiasm is infectuous .... damn you Dfuzz

Not for me it ain't   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 15, 2010, 01:12:40 PM
your enthusiasm is infectuous .... damn you Dfuzz

Not for me it ain't  ;D

that's good 'cos kinect doesn't recognise gingers as it can only map human skeletons  ;D :P only joking mate you know i love you with all my heart  :-* :-* on a more serious note craigs middle name used to be 'fun' but he didn't like having 'fun' as his middle name so he snapped his middle name's neck and threw it in a river tied up in a black bin bag. and thats why he will never buy kinect  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 15, 2010, 05:03:35 PM
couldn't have put it better myself hunni x
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 15, 2010, 05:22:11 PM
My middle name has always been 'Danger', nothing, fun included, can ever change that.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: markav on November 15, 2010, 07:16:23 PM
Just be careful with your'e daughter!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux1FZpPKh20
You have been warned ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 15, 2010, 07:25:48 PM
Just be careful with your'e daughter!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux1FZpPKh20
You have been warned ;)

Awesome   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on November 15, 2010, 07:38:59 PM
in teh face
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on November 15, 2010, 08:40:39 PM
Just be careful with your'e daughter!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux1FZpPKh20
You have been warned ;)

27 seconds.

That's how long I laughed before writing this post.   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 16, 2010, 06:29:24 AM
she has slapped my arm when playing kinect sports but it didn't hurt. those guys were stood way too close together, before each game starts you have an icon on screen that moves around the play space as you do and it tells you to make sure you have plenty of arm room, we follow the instructions and stand on the left most and right most edge of the allowed play space and we never have a problem (apart from that one slap when she got a little carried away). the kinect haters will probably use vids like that to boost their argument that kinect is rubbish, but there are loads of vids on you tube of nintendo wii motes flying across rooms into tv's and walls and people, and also people getting smacked in the face and body with them too. very funny vid though, made me laugh way too much  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on November 16, 2010, 08:29:42 AM
I'm glad you are enjoying it. Lets face it, whether we like it or not the 360 is going to get more and more Kinect focused. So the more people who buy it now the better the chance is that when the rest of us are forced to own the thing the games will be halfway decent.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 19, 2010, 05:09:24 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on November 21, 2010, 11:40:03 AM
This video may be marginally nsfw, so I won't use the youtube tag. The nudity is blurred out, but I think to stay safe I'll put it in a regular link.

Youtube of Adult Film "actress" Kirsten Price testing Kinect's nudity censor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu-frc6WPHs).

Very funny. And actually pretty neat. Both in that they got a hot naked chick to play Kinect for my viewing pleasure, but more importantly because the tech they show off in the vid is surprisingly cool.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on November 23, 2010, 08:49:07 AM
This video may be marginally nsfw, so I won't use the youtube tag. The nudity is blurred out, but I think to stay safe I'll put it in a regular link.

Youtube of Adult Film "actress" Kirsten Price testing Kinect's nudity censor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu-frc6WPHs).

Very funny. And actually pretty neat. Both in that they got a hot naked chick to play Kinect for my viewing pleasure, but more importantly because the tech they show off in the vid is surprisingly cool.

/HI-5
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 24, 2010, 05:36:09 AM
Kinect is wasted on video games (http://kotaku.com/5697790/kinect-is-wasted-on-video-games)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 24, 2010, 06:11:12 AM
quote from the article - Where was the innovation? Why couldn't a single developer, especially Microsoft's own teams, come up with something that couldn't be played just as easily with a Wii Remote.

bullshit. You can't play kinect sports 100 metre dash with a wii remote, it requires you to run and it tracks your legs, on the wii you would just be waggling the remote. same goes for most of the sports on it, in voley ball you can jump to hit the ball back for instance. I have tried dance central and it tracks your entire body and lets you know if one of your limbs is even slightly out of position when dancing, on the wii it would just be moving your arms around with a couple of controllers in your hand - hence nothing like actual dancing. the reviews of your shape - fitness evolved have all pretty much said that it brings fitness games into a whole new era, and the way it knows exactly what you are doing and either tells you off or praises you is sometimes scary, on the wii you need an expensive 'balance board' and a couple of controllers to get an effect that is nowhere near as good or realistic and doesn't help you tone up or get fit in the same way. I could be wrong but i don't think you can use dumbbells for weight training in a wii fitness game, you can in your shape. I agree that kinect's launch line up is pretty lame with only a handful of good titles, but the launch line up for the 360 wasn't much better with a lot of people at the time saying that microsoft had rushed the 360's release and should have waited, then gears of war came along. Things can only get better on the kinect and as someone who has owned a wii and now owns kinect i can safely say that the wii was crap in comparison and the future for kinect looks excellent.
 /end rant
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 24, 2010, 06:18:00 AM
360 Launch Games

Amped 3
Call of Duty 2
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Every Party
FIFA 06: Road to FIFA World Cup
Gun
Kameo: Elements of Power
Madden NFL 06
NBA 2K6
NBA Live 06
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
NHL 2K6
Perfect Dark Zero
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Ridge Racer 6
Tetris: The Grandmaster ACE
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

COD2, Condemned & PGR3 make it a very very good launch lineup for me, though those were the games I got at launch (along with Perfect Dark) so I would say that.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on November 24, 2010, 04:48:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YF8g0rfTG0
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on November 24, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
some ppl have too much time on their hands .... or moobs it seems >_<
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on November 25, 2010, 12:53:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YF8g0rfTG0

I love Earth.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 25, 2010, 06:52:10 AM
just for the record, its true-kinect sensors nothing, an thats all im prepared to say
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on November 25, 2010, 08:55:35 AM
The tech really is impressive. And, sadly, the titty tracker is probably the most fun game ever made for the kinect so far.

p.s. HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on November 25, 2010, 09:37:43 AM
360 Launch Games

Amped 3
Call of Duty 2
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Every Party
FIFA 06: Road to FIFA World Cup
Gun
Kameo: Elements of Power
Madden NFL 06
NBA 2K6
NBA Live 06
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
NHL 2K6
Perfect Dark Zero
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Ridge Racer 6
Tetris: The Grandmaster ACE
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

COD2, Condemned & PGR3 make it a very very good launch lineup for me, though those were the games I got at launch (along with Perfect Dark) so I would say that.   ;D

Four really good titles, same as kinect. Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Kinectimals, Your Shape - (getting good reviews everywhere), or if fitness games aren't for you then - Kinect Adventures. I am fine with people not wanting kinect because it's not for them, but to say it has no good launch titles and doesn't innovate over the wii as it say's in the article is just complete bullshit.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 25, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
I think people are moaning because theres no massive killer launch title but then there very rarely is a huge title at launch, as long as theres some good games with killer games to come people should be happy.

If I had any interest in Kinect at all then i'd probably be pretty happy with the launch games.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 25, 2010, 12:13:09 PM
it was the same with the ds not much going for it when it came out crappy titles, now theres a mass of really good games, and not all of them for kids so atm the jurys out for kinect
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 26, 2010, 05:47:45 AM
Kinect helps triple Xbox 360 sales in Japan
But PSP is the big winner in the latest weekly hardware rankings

Xbox 360 sales almost tripled in Japan during the week ended November 21.

Kinect arrived in Japan on Saturday 20, just one day before the end of the weekly hardware tracking period, but helped lift sales from 2,686 units to 7,083, even though no games made the software top 20.

Earlier this week, a major Japanese electronics retailer said Kinect was "off to a pretty rough start" in the country, selling around "one-fourth" the units PS Move is managing.

PSP topped the weekly hardware sales chart with 96,601 units shifted, followed by PSP and Wii.

Hardware chart (previous week's sales):
PSP: 96,601 (40,328)
PS3: 29,058 (21,114)
Wii: 27,851 (39,308)
DSi LL: 21,836 (18,711)
DSi: 20,550 (13,994)
Xbox 360: 7,083 (2,686)
DS Lite: 1,904 (1,752)
PSP Go: 1,816 (2,727)
PS2: 1,255 (1,233)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 26, 2010, 05:48:42 AM
how come they can sell it in japan, and not china
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 26, 2010, 05:53:27 AM
how come they can sell it in japan, and not china

China have a very strict law that prohibits the sale of video game equipment and accessories, Japan do not, basically.

Also your question should say, how come they can try and sell it in japan? seeing as the 360 is a massive failure over there. 
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 26, 2010, 05:58:29 AM
true, very true, please accept my apologies-missed that one  :D  china is so messed up anyway, strict laws on video games, but you only have to look at the olympic games to see how fucked up a country they really are
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on November 26, 2010, 06:02:02 AM
true, very true, please accept my apologies-missed that one  :D  china is so messed up anyway, strict laws on video games, but you only have to look at the olympic games to see how fucked up a country they really are

Even social networking sites are banned over there, we should have the same laws on that too I think!   :D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on November 26, 2010, 06:07:06 AM
true, very true, please accept my apologies-missed that one  :D  china is so messed up anyway, strict laws on video games, but you only have to look at the olympic games to see how fucked up a country they really are

Even social networking sites are banned over there, we should have the same laws on that too I think!   :D

er it was a social networking site that brought our lovely friendship together..... oh god yeah your right BAN THEM ALL !!!!!! ;D   ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on November 26, 2010, 09:35:39 AM
FYI, Amazon.com is having a Kinect sale (dono for how much yet) at 12:15(pm) PST (which is 3:15(pm) EST and 8:15(pm) Brit time).
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on November 26, 2010, 12:42:30 PM
FYI, Amazon.com is having a Kinect sale (dono for how much yet) at 12:15(pm) PST (which is 3:15(pm) EST and 8:15(pm) Brit time).

(US Link)
http://www.amazon.com/Outlet/b/ref=amb_link_354472602_3?ie=UTF8&plgroup=1&node=409566&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_r=02J9XYRYFCWKJHVS6KJG&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=1281600262&pf_rd_i=B001SH7YMG

Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption and a lot of other titles are available for $30.  I just bought Halo Reach for my sister.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on November 26, 2010, 01:00:07 PM
Best big bro ever is Neato?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 04, 2010, 05:51:27 AM
Man uses Kinect for Predator cloak
He wasn't an alien after all - he was from the future

A man in Japan has hacked Kinect so that it cloaks him in a Predator-like invisibility shield - or at least it looks like it.

Japanese coder Takayuki Fukatsu has exploited the motion cam so that it tracks his movement, but turns his details into an almost perfect transparent effect.

What the tinkered sensor is actually doing is skinning his image with a picture of the background - but don't tell Arnie that, it'll ruin the surprise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qhXQ_1CQjg


I'm struggling to see what's so good about this.  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on December 04, 2010, 09:37:17 AM
That is pretty bad ass.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on December 04, 2010, 04:05:33 PM
Man uses Kinect for Predator cloak
He wasn't an alien after all - he was from the future


I'm struggling to see what's not good about this.  ;D

FIX0RED
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Jaynestown on December 04, 2010, 04:28:19 PM
Man uses Kinect for Predator cloak
He wasn't an alien after all - he was from the future

A man in Japan has hacked Kinect so that it cloaks him in a Predator-like invisibility shield - or at least it looks like it.

Japanese coder Takayuki Fukatsu has exploited the motion cam so that it tracks his movement, but turns his details into an almost perfect transparent effect.

What the tinkered sensor is actually doing is skinning his image with a picture of the background - but don't tell Arnie that, it'll ruin the surprise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qhXQ_1CQjg


I'm struggling to see what's so good about this.  ;D

Wow, how cool! Shame about the music!!! :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 09, 2010, 06:48:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlLschoMhuE
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 21, 2010, 09:36:09 AM
Finally a hardcore title! (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-12-21-ms-not-thrilled-by-kinect-sex-game)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 27, 2010, 07:09:06 AM
This sounds worrying!

MS: 2011 'all about Kinect'
"Kinect's new line-up will blow you away"

Microsoft has claimed that its 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect" - as the device spearheads a "brilliant" line-up on 360.

MS's director of Xbox and Entertainment for the UK, Stephen McGill, was asked what the secret to Xbox's success so far had been in the latest issue of Xbox World 360.

As you may expect, he said it mainly came down to "incredible games", but added: "It's also about great entertainment and that's another key factor for us. We were the first company - and the best company, I think - to offer regular updates to our service so you don't have to keep on buying new bits of hardware.

"Every few months we've been doing new services such as introducing movies and music so we continue to evolve."

Discussing next year's prospects, McGill added: "As for the future, we've got a brilliant line-up for 2011 but it's ultimately all about Kinect. Kinect is going to blow people's minds. They're [already] buying it, but we've got a line-up of Kinect games that will blow people away."

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on December 27, 2010, 01:09:44 PM
only worrying to those who are to stubborn to buy a kinect  ;) i think its brilliant, might actually start to lose some weight  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 27, 2010, 01:45:19 PM
only worrying to those who are to stubborn to buy a kinect  ;) i think its brilliant, might actually start to lose some weight  ;D

Worrying because MS sound as though they are going to start ignoring the core gamers which is what most people were worried about from the start, only two big exclusives being released next year (Gears 3 & Forza 4) whereas the PS3 has around ten.  Not good!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on December 27, 2010, 01:55:14 PM
we will just have to see what happens, i cant really see them ignoring the core gamers, only time will tell
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on December 27, 2010, 02:00:35 PM
and whatever Halo game 343 bring out.

their will be 20-30 xbox exclusives in 2011, of which 80% will be kinect based.

When the Kinect tech is lower in price and there is a good dozen games i wanna play, then i'll buy it. Kinectimals looks like somethng my daughter will really love and i want the dancing game. I wouldn't buy a console for 2 games though.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 27, 2010, 02:02:46 PM
MS saying 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect".

Sounds ominous to me!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on December 27, 2010, 02:03:40 PM
i totally agree, i dont think its worth the two decent titles that are out, i personally could have waited but there you go, i just hope whatever few games the do decide to bring out are going to be good
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on December 27, 2010, 02:13:08 PM
MS saying 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect".

Sounds ominous to me!

only cause you won't buy Kinect.

and you say it like you'll get into any game other than Gears? :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Jaynestown on December 27, 2010, 02:17:43 PM
MS saying 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect".
Sounds ominous to me!

This could be good news. If most of the games they sell are for Kinect, and I can't buy Kinect because my living room's too small, then it should save me a tonne of money on games I can't buy :) (See there's always a plus side)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 27, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
MS saying 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect".

Sounds ominous to me!

only cause you won't buy Kinect.

and you say it like you'll get into any game other than Gears? :P

You know me so well   ;D

Obviously there will be some great multi platform games next year that i'll only play on the 360 but despite my love for Gears, the PS3 has a far better exclusive line up of core games than the 360.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on December 27, 2010, 02:19:07 PM
MS saying 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect".

Sounds ominous to me!

only cause you won't buy Kinect.

and you say it like you'll get into any game other than Gears? :P

this is true, hmm i wonder if, they bring out a kinect version of gears, would the ginger one actually buy a kinect
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 27, 2010, 02:20:31 PM
MS saying 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect".

Sounds ominous to me!

only cause you won't buy Kinect.

and you say it like you'll get into any game other than Gears? :P

this is true, hmm i wonder if, they bring out a kinect version of gears, would the ginger one actually buy a kinect

Nope!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Jaynestown on December 27, 2010, 02:21:39 PM
and whatever Halo game 343 bring out.

their will be 20-30 xbox exclusives in 2011, of which 80% will be kinect based.

When the Kinect tech is lower in price and there is a good dozen games i wanna play, then i'll buy it. Kinectimals looks like somethng my daughter will really love and i want the dancing game. I wouldn't buy a console for 2 games though.

My brother bought a Game Cube just because it was the only console you could play Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader on. I wonder if he's still got it?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on December 27, 2010, 02:24:04 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Jaynestown on December 27, 2010, 02:31:53 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 27, 2010, 02:34:56 PM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on December 27, 2010, 02:37:56 PM
MS saying 2011 will "ultimately be all about Kinect".

Sounds ominous to me!

only cause you won't buy Kinect.

and you say it like you'll get into any game other than Gears? :P

this is true, hmm i wonder if, they bring out a kinect version of gears, would the ginger one actually buy a kinect

Nope!

didnt think u would
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on December 29, 2010, 10:37:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlLschoMhuE

There's the "Minority Report" everyone was going batsh** insane for months ago.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on December 29, 2010, 10:39:10 AM
This sounds worrying!

MS: 2011 'all about Kinect'

Good.  Now I'll have an entire year to catch up on older games.   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on December 29, 2010, 10:40:26 AM
and whatever Halo game 343 bring out.

their will be 20-30 xbox exclusives in 2011, of which 80% will be kinect based.

When the Kinect tech is lower in price and there is a good dozen games i wanna play, then i'll buy it. Kinectimals looks like somethng my daughter will really love and i want the dancing game. I wouldn't buy a console for 2 games though.

100% agree.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on December 29, 2010, 10:44:15 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Maibs on December 30, 2010, 06:39:19 AM
World of Warcraft with Kinect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62wj8eJ0FHw
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on December 30, 2010, 10:01:06 AM
World of Warcraft with Kinect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62wj8eJ0FHw

Neat.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on December 30, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
loads of multi platform non kinect based games are coming out in 2011, i don't give a crap about exclusives, i already have a lost of around 10 games that i really want that came out in 2010 and more that i want in 2011. I am pleased they are concentrating on kinect, might mean we get some awesome games for it. we shall see. I already have kinect sports which is ace, kinect adventures which is ok, kinectimals which is brilliant and i will be getting dance central and your shape fitness evolved in the new year so to me buyi9ng kinect has been more than worth it so far.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on December 30, 2010, 12:31:04 PM
Glad to hear the Fusion family are enjoying it.  I'd buy Kinect tomorrow if I had the space to play it... :'(
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 30, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
I have the space to play it and that's where it ends!   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on December 30, 2010, 01:58:38 PM
I have the space to play it and that's where it ends!   :)


didnt think there was space to do anything in that cold dark place you call your soul  ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 05, 2011, 01:06:17 PM
Kinect blamed for return of 360 'red ring of death'
MS denies BBC report

A number of Xbox 360 owners have reported suffering console failures shortly after buying Kinect.

According to the BBC, users are blaming the motion sensing peripheral for new instances of the dreaded red ring of death - although the possibility that their systems could have red ringed anyway obviously looms large.

"We plugged it [Kinect] in the day we got it but only played it a few times before we got the red lights," Adam Winnifrith told BBC Radio 4's You and Yours.

"The next day when we tried it again we still had the red rings of death and haven't been able to use it since."

Online gaming forums are carrying similar stories.

"I have never had a single issue with my Xbox," one poster wrote. "i got Kinect for Christmas and the screen starting freezing randomly. Then on New Year's eve... BAM I got the red ring. Very sad."

Another read: "Yep, I got the Red rings of death on Christmas day The very same day my kids got a Kinect."

Responding to the report, Microsoft denied any link between Kinect and Xbox 360 failures.

"There is no correlation between the three flashing red lights error and Kinect," the firm said in a statement. "Any new instances of the three flashing red lights error are merely coincidental."
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on January 05, 2011, 02:29:08 PM
So people buying Kinect to use with older consoles get RRD, Forcing them to buy a new slim model. How very convenient MS!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 06, 2011, 06:40:03 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 06, 2011, 07:10:06 AM
Avatar Kinect announcement & trailer, it looks completely awful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AyQFpBG1xw
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Maibs on January 06, 2011, 07:36:45 AM
Microsoft: Kinect sells 8 million units worldwide

It seems like just last November, Microsoft was predicting it'd sell around 5 million Kinect sensors by now. Wait -- it was last November! Anyway, that prediction was off by 3 million units ... in the company's favor. MS boss Steve Ballmer just told the crowd at his CES 2011 keynote that 8 million of the devices have been sold worldwide in six months. (We're guessing that's units shipped to retail, not sold through to consumers, but Microsoft wasn't more specific.)

2.5 million Kinects had been shipped by the end of November 2010, this after one industry analyst predicted that it was possible the hardware could top 4 million sold by January 31 of last year. What a pessimist!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 06, 2011, 07:44:02 AM
Only around 5 million, maybe 6, will actually have been sold which is still very impressive, 8 million have been shipped.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on January 07, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Avatar Kinect announcement & trailer, it looks completely awful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AyQFpBG1xw

like your face!  ;D  ;)

I really liked the look of that tech wise, then i heard it was completely free and now i love it  :) Shame it will only be mine and dark master's avatar in a virtual room together. at least our avatars will finally be able to have some 'private time' though  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on January 07, 2011, 01:02:36 PM
Xbox Live is continually pushing the boundaries of cyber sex. I, for one, approve.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 07, 2011, 01:11:54 PM
cyber living rooms with 360 fahrenheit members to caress with kinectination .... hmmmm
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 07, 2011, 01:14:58 PM
It stops you from whoring achievements and playing games, you know, what a games console is actually for, therefore it's pointless!   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on January 07, 2011, 01:24:20 PM
cyber living rooms with 360 fahrenheit members to caress with kinectination .... hmmmm

A kinorgy, if you will.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 07, 2011, 01:27:05 PM
look out for an Official 360 Fahrenheit Kinorgy coming soon.... can't wait to have my first Kinorgasm
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on January 07, 2011, 03:13:06 PM
It stops you from whoring achievements and playing games, you know, what a games console is actually for, therefore it's pointless!   :)

once again, like your face  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 07, 2011, 07:44:23 PM
Using the same joke twice in one day, have you been watching unfunny Bolton comedians again?   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 07, 2011, 08:27:34 PM
its the only joke he knows  bear with him
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on January 08, 2011, 03:25:45 PM
its the only joke he knows  bear with him

like your face  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 08, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
oh dear!! someone stop him!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 08, 2011, 05:42:38 PM
im going to kill him
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Legion on January 08, 2011, 05:50:52 PM
You can try, I suspect he'll kill your face if you try though ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 08, 2011, 06:26:52 PM
im surprised he had a go in the first place, he must be feeling very brave
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 11, 2011, 10:58:40 AM
Sorry if already asked, but 44 pages is to much to look through! Is it very noisy using the kinect            (jumping about ect)  as I have neighbours below?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on January 11, 2011, 01:20:26 PM
Sorry if already asked, but 44 pages is to much to look through! Is it very noisy using the kinect            (jumping about ect)  as I have neighbours below?

depends what game you are playing, it can be quite noisy playing kinect sports if you are running for example, were as lifting weights while playing your shape is quiet.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 11, 2011, 02:26:09 PM
thinking of getting "your shape" and "ea active", i might invest in some mats to try and make it less noisy!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 11, 2011, 02:27:19 PM
if you kill the neighbours you wont have to worry about how much noise you make ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 11, 2011, 02:29:59 PM
i could do i suppose, ive got a late start in the morning :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 22, 2011, 07:07:30 AM
Those with Kinect that want an easy 1000 points might want to check this (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/brunswick-pro-bowling/achievements/) out.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 22, 2011, 12:15:12 PM
awesome  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 22, 2011, 12:18:01 PM
Getting mine on Saturday!  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 22, 2011, 12:19:50 PM
oooohh we can kinect chat  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 22, 2011, 12:25:55 PM
oooohh we can kinect chat  ;D

I get to see the woman in person who abuses me in the party chat yaaaaaaaay  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 22, 2011, 12:30:16 PM
once i did that, once- your one of the lucky ones i like you  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 22, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
Thankyou very much! You are not so bad yourself  :P
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on January 22, 2011, 12:41:14 PM
a kinect game with only 12 cheeves, i smell a stinker of a game. rental.  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 22, 2011, 12:43:33 PM
Thankyou very much! You are not so bad yourself  :P

cheers tough guy lol
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 22, 2011, 01:08:08 PM
fizz is always taking the piss outta people i'm suprised she has ANYONE on her friends list ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 22, 2011, 01:09:10 PM
It's not to bad I quite enjoy it!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 22, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
massuchist  :o
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 22, 2011, 02:17:04 PM
im turnin over a new leaf, im goin to be nice to everyone  :-*
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Vidar on January 22, 2011, 02:28:28 PM
im turnin over a new leaf, im goin to be nice to everyone  :-*


Lies!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 22, 2011, 02:32:13 PM
not lies, u will see, unless of course someone starts first, then its just self defence  ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on January 22, 2011, 02:37:06 PM
not lies, u will see, unless of course someone starts first, then its just self defence  ;D

So you're not really French then?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on January 22, 2011, 02:39:28 PM
not lies, u will see, unless of course it's craig, then its just self interest  ;D

FIXED
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: dfusioness on January 22, 2011, 02:40:16 PM
you can grow up as well, or is it just jealousy  ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on February 03, 2011, 03:26:28 PM
Those domain sniffers have been at it again, this time finding a domain registered by Microsoft in June of 2010. As if it wasn't already a statistical certainty, considering Microsoft's focus on Kinect games, KinectHalo.com lends even more credence to the idea.

While domain registrations are never conclusive, it's clear that Microsoft has been considering expanding the Halo franchise onto Kinect. 343 Industries has been busy for a while now and there are rumours of a Halo: Combat Evolved remake.

The studio has been staffing up considerably over the last year, so it's very possible that there are multiple projects in the works and that one of them might utilise Kinect in some way. Would you like to see a Halo game on Kinect?

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Autarch Kade on February 03, 2011, 08:15:31 PM
I wouldn't want to see it, just for the reason of not wanting to have to get all the achievements in it ;)

Other than that, it'd be hard to figure a way for a traditional halo game to work using only kinect.  At least, in my mind it would be.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on February 03, 2011, 09:14:29 PM
...  it'd be hard to figure a way for a traditional halo game to work using only kinect.  At least, in my mind it would be.

Just a thought ...


Maybe a quasi-railshooter?  Full range X/Y axis controlled by hand (or peripheral) movement, but all 'walking' is on rails.

It would have to be single-player / co-op only, but who would want to play competitively with a Kinect game anyway?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on February 04, 2011, 02:18:07 PM
The game doesn't have to run using connect, it may just 'utillise' connect.

Instead of games incorporating quick-time events, they could now include Kinect-timed events. Or maybe you run along with your normal pad and then a cutscene lets you know you need to defuse a bomb in which Kinect is used. Perhaps with games like Rainbow Six, you could order your team to stack up using Kinect and hand signals rather than the D-pad. Theres also the obvious voice controls too.

Endless possibilities to improve games rather than just make boring sport or fairground games.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: sambo on February 05, 2011, 08:55:46 AM
 KinectHalo.com.. This could also just be to enable Halo Waypoint to be controlled through Kinect.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on February 05, 2011, 12:58:38 PM
The game doesn't have to run using connect, it may just 'utillise' connect.

Instead of games incorporating quick-time events, they could now include Kinect-timed events. Or maybe you run along with your normal pad and then a cutscene lets you know you need to defuse a bomb in which Kinect is used. Perhaps with games like Rainbow Six, you could order your team to stack up using Kinect and hand signals rather than the D-pad. Theres also the obvious voice controls too.

Endless possibilities to improve games rather than just make boring sport or fairground games.

I agree, Kinect sports is an amazing game but all the other sports titles that are out for kinect are complete rubbish, early days for kinect though i am sure we will see some genuine innovation this year.
Case in point, these guys are pretty good at innovating -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMNBtrEPx0M
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on February 06, 2011, 10:13:04 AM
Dubstep + Kinect = Live Remixing at Clubs

Gamertag Radio writes: "The latest style of Dubstep is an offshoot of Drum n Bass or Jungle. It features a slower hip hop style while maintaining the dirty electro feel popular in todays music. Pair that with the easily hackable Kinect at a club and its no longer about the DJ standing behind turntables or laptop."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqxUzhDIdqo
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on February 06, 2011, 11:25:25 AM
Dubstep + Kinect = Live Remixing at Clubs

Gamertag Radio writes: "The latest style of Dubstep is an offshoot of Drum n Bass or Jungle. It features a slower hip hop style while maintaining the dirty electro feel popular in todays music. Pair that with the easily hackable Kinect at a club and its no longer about the DJ standing behind turntables or laptop."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqxUzhDIdqo

That's bananas.  The future is looking bright for raverats.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 09, 2011, 06:00:12 AM
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on March 09, 2011, 01:32:26 PM
still wont be getting Kinect...just dont have the space for it
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on March 09, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
still wont be getting Kinect...just dont have the space for it

Me neither though I do have the space for it!   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 09, 2011, 05:24:57 PM
I found a deal that I couldn't pass up and bought a Kinect last week.

I set it up, moved my furniture around, and still didn't have enough room to comfortably play it.  I sent it back the next day.   :-\
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: DFUSIONITE on March 10, 2011, 08:49:38 AM
I found a deal that I couldn't pass up and bought a Kinect last week.

I set it up, moved my furniture around, and still didn't have enough room to comfortably play it.  I sent it back the next day.   :-\


i am lucky because if i move my armchair i have just enough room for two players to comfortably play kinect. i would be devastated if i couldn't have one due to space issues, in fact i would probably move house!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 10, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
If I completely rearranged my livingroom, I could probably use Kinect comfortably.  But the headache of moving my entertainment setup to the other side of the room is just not worth it to me (yet).

Make me a must-have Kinect game, and I'll consider it.   ;)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Lukehi on March 10, 2011, 12:47:50 PM
Kinect goes all 'Roy Castle' on us and is a record breaker:

Microsoft has sold more than 10 million Kinect sensor systems since launch on 4 November, and - according to Guinness World Records - is the fastest-selling consumer electronics device on record.
The sales figures outstrip those of both Apple's iPhone and iPad when launched, Guinness said.


Full Story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12697975)

Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on March 10, 2011, 12:50:05 PM
A few weeks ago I remember some industry discussions about Microsoft not revealing their "sales" numbers accurately.  They were only reporting their "shipped" numbers, which means nothing.

Perhaps they were hiding the final numbers for Guiness to reveal?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Handshakes on March 10, 2011, 01:47:53 PM
Kinect goes all 'Roy Castle' on us and is a record breaker:

Microsoft has sold more than 10 million Kinect sensor systems since launch on 4 November, and - according to Guinness World Records - is the fastest-selling consumer electronics device on record.
The sales figures outstrip those of both Apple's iPhone and iPad when launched, Guinness said.


Full Story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12697975)



Wha-what?

I have a really hard time believing this.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on October 04, 2011, 07:45:14 AM
Warwick Davis & Verne Troyer will not be amused!  (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-03-kinect-can-work-out-your-age)   ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on October 04, 2011, 09:06:24 AM
Clever stuff!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on October 04, 2011, 11:39:14 AM
Warwick Davis & Verne Troyer will not be amused!  (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-03-kinect-can-work-out-your-age)   ;D

Quote
The patent, filed in March 2010 but publicly released by the USPTO (spotted by Geekwire) reveals Kinect could automatically restrict content by working out the age of the people standing in the room.

What about dwarves?  Or teenagers all hulked out on dairy hormones?
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Failed on October 05, 2011, 04:55:47 PM
or fat kids
Title: Kinect
Post by: slippedzero on December 11, 2011, 07:22:34 PM
Hey everybody!!

My lovely wife has bought me a slim xbox with 250gb and the kinect attached. I would love to know what you guys like abt the Kinect and what u hate abt it and also the better games. Its with sad regret that i place my original Halo 3 Limited edition Xbox into the cupboard, i break off the shackles of 20gb. I have had this for just over 4 yrs and only prob i have had is the Disc tray will only operate if there is a disc in it, so i have to keep a game in at all times otherwise its a pain to take cover off and manipulate tray with paper clip. So any advice or just feedback is welcomed!!
Title: Re: Kinect
Post by: Autarch Kade on December 11, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
I had quite a bit of fun with Kinect Sports.  My sister enjoyed Dance Central a lot.  I hear that Child of Eden is a great game.

Congrats on the new Xbox :)  Now you can actually install games onto the hard drive haha
Title: Re: Kinect
Post by: BackupLight on December 11, 2011, 07:58:36 PM
Child of Eden wasn't that great to me - good, but not amazing. But not through bad design I don't think, it's a subjective thing. It's enjoyable in that it shows off the Kinect to you, and there's some very very nice moments in it - just very short. Definitely worth a play since it's pretty cheap now though :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: GamerMan316 on December 12, 2011, 04:50:05 AM
Merged Zero's Kinect thread with the main Kinect discussion thread.   :)
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: nCogNeato on December 13, 2011, 01:04:07 PM
I finally caved and bought the Kinect during Black Friday.  One for me, and one for my sister/nephew.

I haven't actually used it for any games yet.  So far I've only used it for videochat, which is a nice improvement over using the old 360 camera (no headset required).

After Christmas, I'll be giving Once Upon a Monster (http://www.360fahrenheit.com/forum/index.php?topic=790.0) a spin.  Expect a quick review.  ;)
 


Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: BackupLight on December 13, 2011, 04:29:16 PM
Neato: FRUIT NINJA.

That is all.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: donnieoneshot on February 07, 2012, 08:02:46 AM
Anybody ever pick up the Nyko Zoom for the Kinect?  Is it worth getting? It'd be nice not to fill the hallway with furniture every time the thing gets dusted off!!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Windedprism on February 07, 2012, 08:42:59 AM
I just bought a tv mount clip off ebay, I hope it's not too shabby! but at least I can leave it there perma. I was looking at that Nyko zoom and was wondering if it was any good, I don't need to make space I'm good on that front, damn thing is 32 euro though.
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: BackupLight on February 07, 2012, 01:55:36 PM
I just blu-tacked mine on, it's been fine. I imagine those clips would be decent. It works a heck of a lot better higher up, to the point I even considered getting one of those wall brackets for it or fitting a shelf up there. It does make me wish we had a larger lounge (like they assume everyone has according to the adverts). It'd make for much more comfortable use, especially when there's a couple of us playing.

I did manage to get it balanced on my screen the first few days - didn't take long for it to fall off and scratch. That was great fun. At least it didn't break ;D
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Smithk4 on February 15, 2012, 11:50:30 AM
Havent got a kinect but I'm thinking of getting one. Might wait and do some research first and make sure that there isnt a new version due out soon!
Title: Re: Kinect Discussion
Post by: Windedprism on February 15, 2012, 04:41:35 PM
New version of kinect?
not until the next console.