R4 cards

[sambo]

 Was wondering If any of you guy's use R4 cards in your DS's.
I have two for each of my kids, and they save me a fortune. each card can hold between !5 to 30 games depending on size.
www.r4ds.cn

A video on how it works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEcdHG-DDkU

[Failed]

kills your battery though .. but whats the price of a new battery every now and again compared to free games.

[TaraJayne]

I have 3. They are awesome. Not had no battery issues yet. But as you said better than paying a fortune for unreasonably priced games.

I have not got tonnes of games for wii and psp. There is only my xbox that is clean

[nCogNeato]

I bought an M3Real card a few months ago.

I played GTA: Chinatown Wars about halfway through and then went straight back to my Xbox 360 + 42" 1080p.

I just can't get into something on a 3" screen anymore.  That's why I play old GBA games on my modded Wii.

[Failed]

Isn't there massive pixelation from playing a small game on a massive TV ?

[GamerMan316]

I don't have a DS (traded it for my PSP) but i've been downloading ROMS for my mate while his internet is down for a few weeks now.

[nCogNeato]

Isn't there massive pixelation from playing a small game on a massive TV ?

It's surprisingly bearable.  I use the upgraded Component cables for my Wii, which helps a little.  But the emulator's texture enhancing working with my tv's pixel-smoothing features makes it look no worse than any of the non-HD ports on Xbox Live Arcade.

I most recently played Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu.  The game actually looks and plays very smooth.  A lot of handheld games have very clunky controls that don't translate well to a controller, but Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu was very precise.

[reaper79666]

I have to admit i love my r 4 got loads of games on it some good most just fun. Its good to have when your stuck somewhere with nothing to do like at the in laws

[DFUSIONITE]

bought a card for vicki's ds and it's cool. got a 2 gig micro sd with it, already got 26 games on it and still nearly a gig left. got quite a few for games on there for me too 

[GamerMan316]

I don't think anyone will be bothered by this but I thought i'd share it.   

DS pirate carts now illegal in UK

R4 cartridges, which are used to play pirated copies of games on the Nintendo DS, are now illegal in the UK.

A judge ruled against R4 company Playables Limited and Wai Dat Chan, making it illegal to import, advertise and sell R4 carts in Britain.

The "first-ever" judgement was made after the London High Court ruled the carts were illegal because they bypass the DS's security measures in order to run games.

"Nintendo promotes and fosters game development and creativity, and strongly supports the game developers who legitimately create new and innovative applications," Nintendo said in a statement.

"Nintendo initiates these actions not only on its own behalf, but also on behalf of over 1,400 video game-development companies that depend on legitimate sales of games for their survival.

In the U.K. alone, there have been over 100,000 game copying devices seized since 2009, Nintendo said.

Playables Limited and Wai Dat Chan argued that game copiers were lawful because they allow for the play of "homebrew" applications. Obviously that didn't work.

[Lukehi]

right thats it i'm reporting everyone in this thread to the police...although I can never remember anyones real names!!


well that's pissed on my chips...

[nCogNeato]

I don't think the law prohibits the use of R4 cards.  Only the commercial sale of them.

I also wonder if the law only affects "R4" cards specifically, because there are a lot of other devices that do the same thing that aren't associated with the R4 company.

[Failed]

now it's illegal, i've threw mine in the bin and will now only buy legit copies of Imagine Babies.

[GamerMan316]

R4 cart ban: More details emerge

More details have emerged from the High Court ruling that R4 cartridges have been banned in the UK.

Eurogamer has obtained a copy of the High Court of Justice Chancery Division's judgement in favour of Nintendo against defendants Playables Limited and owner Mr Wai Dat Chan.

The case concerned "a number of different types of devices imported and dealt in" by Playables.

Devices are defined as those which "enable Nintendo DS users to play unlawful copies of Nintendo DS games which they have downloaded using the internet".

That's what Nintendo means when it says "game copiers".

But what, exactly, has been made illegal?

According to the report, the R4 DS, M3 DS, DS One Supercard, DSTT, DS Linker, Acekard, CycloDS Evolution, N5 and EZ devices were under scrutiny.

Some are still listed on Playables' website.

They contain either built-in memory or a further slot of their own which accommodates a micro-SD flash card.

They also contain circuitry, software and data that enable them to pass the tests performed by the Nintendo DS to verify the game inserted is genuine.

The case concerned the Copyright Designs and Patents Act 1998, and Nintendo's claim that games were copied into the random access memory in the course of using Playables' devices.

The judgement reveals the steps Nintendo takes to prevent loading unlawful copies of its games:

The shape of the connector arrangement of the slot on the DS and the corresponding shape of the game cards designed to fit into it; the boot up software permanently stored on the Nintendo DS, which checks for the presence on an inserted card of the Nintendo Logo Data File (NLDF) and prevents execution of programs present on the inserted card if the NLDF is not detected; and the use of shared key encryption technology and scrambling to enable the DS to detect whether game cards are authentic.

Are all "effective technological measures" taken by the Japanese company to protect itself.

The judge found in favour of Nintendo because it proved the devices circumvented them.

So, what does this mean?

It means that it is now illegal to manufacture, import, distribute or sell in the UK any device that is "primarily designed, produced, adapted or performed for the purpose of enabling or facilitating the circumvention of the ETM employed by Nintendo to protect its copyright".

Simply owning a relevant devices is not illegal. But it's probably best not show it off to your mates.

Apparently, Nintendo has seized "more than 165,000 game copiers intended for" Playables. That's a lot.

The Hon Mr Justice Floyd, who made the ruling, wrote: "Each game card has the code relevant to the NLDF installed on it. I cannot see how it can be said that Nintendo authorised the copying of this into RAM.

"The accused devices are much more than the reel-to-reel tape recorders in CBS v Amstrad (1998).

"They are templates for infringement."

Playables had argued that it did not know or have reason to believe that the devices would be used to make infringing copies.

It also said there are lawful uses for the devices, such as playing homebrew games.

The judge said neither argument had merit.

"It needs to be kept in mind that the focus of this requirement is on circumvention.

"The fact that a device may be used for a purpose which does not involve infringement of copyright does not mean that the sole intended purpose is not the unauthorised circumvention of a technical device."

Wai Dat Chan did not appear and was not represented at the ruling.

Chan did not respond to requests for comment from Eurogamer.

[DFUSIONITE]

stop charging £30.00 for games then, if they were priced at £15.00 brand new and a tenner pre owned the that would be a more realistic price point for a lot of ds games that only take a few hours to complete.